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Elliott Abrams Caught Misleading on Newt
American Spectator ^ | 1/27/12 | Jeffrey Lord

Posted on 01/27/2012 6:36:07 PM PST by Doc Justice

As Ronald Reagan used to say: Well...

Yesterday we took note of former Reagan State Department official Elliott Abrams' piece over at NRO that went after Newt Gingrich on his relationship with Reagan. While voting regularly with Reagan as a young congressman from Georgia, Gingrich, claimed Abrams, "often spewed insulting rhetoric at Reagan, his top aides and his policies to defeat Communism." Abrams then goes on to cite " a famous floor statement Gingrich made on March 21, 1986."

Or sort of cites it.

In fact, I'm sorry to say, what appears to be going on here is that Elliott Abrams, a considerably admirable public servant and a very smart guy, has been swept up in the GOP Establishment's Romney frothings over the rise of Newt Gingrich in the Republican primaries. He is even being accused of trolling for a job in a Romney administration. No way!!!! Really????

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What else can possibly explain a piece like the one Abrams penned on a day when Gingrich was being of a mysterious sudden targeted in one hit piece after another for his ties to Reagan? The pieces invariably following the Romney line that Newt had some version of nothing to do with Reagan.

A piece like the one Abrams wrote depends for its success in garnering headlines -- which it did -- by assuming no one will bother to get into the weeds and do the homework. Usually a safe assumption when dealing with the mainstream media, particularly a mainstream media that, as one with Establishment Republicans, hates Newt Gingrich.

Not so fast.

Due to the diligence of one Chris Scheve of a group called Aqua Terra Strategies in Washington, Mr. Abrams has been caught red-handed in lending himself to this attempted Romney hit job.

Mr. Scheve, you see, is himself a former foreign policy aide to none other than Speaker Newt Gingrich in his days as Speaker. While now out on his own and not working for Gingrich, Scheve is considerably conversant with the Gingrich foreign policy record.

Uh-oh.

That's right. Mr. Scheve, incensed at what he felt was a deliberate misrepresentation of his old boss by Abrams and the Romney forces, specifically of Gingrich's long ago March 21, 1986 "Special Order" speech on the floor of the House, and aware "that most of [Abrams'] comments had to have been selectively taken from the special order" -- Scheve started digging. Since the Congressional Record for 1986 was difficult to obtain electronically, Scheve trekked to the George Mason Library to physically track down the March 21, 1986 edition of the Congressional Record. Locating it, copying and scanning, he was kind enough to send to me.

So now I've read the Gingrich speech that is the source of all the hoopla. All seven, fine print pages worth of it exactly as it appeared in its original form.

I can only say that what Elliott Abrams wrote in NRO about Newt Gingrich based on this long ago speech is not worthy of Elliott Abrams.

Specifically, Abrams implies that Newt Gingrich was spewing mindless vitriol about Reagan on the House floor. Not only not so, it was quite to the contrary. Of President Reagan, Gingrich says:

• "Let me be clear: I have the greatest respect for President Reagan. I think he personally understands the threat of communism." Gingrich then goes on -- at Newtonian length -- praising Reagan for Reagan's understanding of Lenin, Reagan's understanding of the real "purposes of a Soviet dictatorship" and much more. He lists and applauds Reagan repeatedly for the President's appreciation of "the threat in a more powerful Soviet empire" and the threats posed by Communist Cuba and Nicaragua. He ranks Reagan with the great cold war presidents in protecting freedom. In short, time after time after, Newt Gingrich -- true to form -- is there on the floor of the House relentlessly praising and crediting Ronald Reagan. Is it any wonder that years later Nancy Reagan would speak so publicly and warmly about "Ronnie" passing the conservative torch to Newt? Is there any wonder that Michael Reagan has stepped into the middle of this current brawl to endorse Newt?

• Abrams quotes Newt for saying in this speech that Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are "inadequate and will ultimately fail." This is shameful. Why? Here's what Newt said -- in full and in context: "The fact is that George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick are right in pointing out the enormous gap between President Reagan's strong rhetoric, which is adequate, and his administration's weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail." In other words, Newt was picking up on a concern, prominent in the day and voiced by no less than Reagan's then ex-UN Ambassador Kirkpatrick, not to mention prominent Reagan supporters Will and Kristol and the late-Mondale aide turned conservative Krauthammer, that Reagan's anti-Communist policies could be stronger if better institutionalized and not tied as much to the Reagan persona. The entire speech focused on suggestions of how to do just that -- to effectively institutionalize Reagan's conservative beliefs in the government. Is Abrams seriously accusing Jeane Kirkpatrick and George Will of being anti-Reagan? Of spewing "insulting rhetoric" at a president everyone in Washington knew they staunchly supported? Really? Of course not. But in apparent service to the Romney campaign, in order to make Newt Gingrich appear to be doing just that, Abrams apparently quite deliberately cut out the original Gingrich reference to Will, Kirkpatrick, Krauthammer, and Kristol.

• ABC News. Now here's a little juicy tidbit. What's been the big news with Newt's campaign in the last week? That's right. The ABC News "investigative" piece by Brian Ross in the form of an interview with Gingrich's ex-wife Marianne. Aired two days before the South Carolina primary, the incident famously backfired as Gingrich launched an attack on ABC during that now-famous CNN debate hosted by John King.

All new, right? Wrong.

Five days previous to Gingrich's speech, President Reagan had addressed the nation on what he called "the mounting danger in Central America" from Nicaragua. Nicaragua, which Reagan described as "a Soviet ally on the American mainland only 2 hours' flying time from our own borders. With over a billion dollars in Soviet-bloc aid, the Communist government of Nicaragua has launched a campaign to subvert and topple its democratic neighbors." Typically, the liberal media of the day zapped Reagan. And sure enough, buried in that March 21, 1986 Gingrich speech on the House floor, Gingrich was tough on the liberal media's handling of Reagan's speech. And who -- quite specifically -- did he single out for criticism?

You guessed it: ABC News.

Said Newt:

All too often the news media itself is grotesquely uncritical and grotesquely willing to use Soviet language to explain Soviet behavior. Possibly it reached its epitome when ABC News put on a paid Soviet propagandist following the President of the United States. In other words, 26 years ago Newt Gingrich was busy incurring the institutional wrath not just of the mainstream media in general but ABC News quite specifically over the issue of their "grotesquely uncritical" treatment of the Soviet dictatorship. What America is seeing in real time today in this 2012 presidential campaign in terms of Newt Gingrich taking on both the media in general and ABC News in particular is decidedly not new. There is a history here -- a long one -- of Gingrich calling out ABC. And, as seen in the now infamous ex-wife interview, ABC pulls no punches when dealing with Newt Gingrich.

One could go on here. This March, 1986 speech was a long, typically Newt presentation. Lots of history. Lots of constructive thought. Lots of talk about strategy, tactics, the military. At one point -- a full 15 years before 9/11, Gingrich addresses the need for an American strategy that will support "Islamic freedom."

The main point is that the Newt Gingrich who spoke on the floor of the House on March 21, 1986, was thoroughly pro-Reagan, honestly engaging in a serious intellectual effort to assess the strengths and weaknesses of American foreign policy in the day from a hierarchy of vision, strategy, operations or projects and then last but not least, tactics. In grossly misrepresenting this speech as some sort of anti-Reagan jihad, Elliott Abrams has ironically only called attention to Governor Romney's lack of strengths and experience in this area.

Not to put too fine a point on this, but this kind of stuff is getting out of control. Gingrich, Romney, and Santorum all have their strengths and weaknesses. It does no one -- least of all Elliott Abrams or Governor Romney -- any good to try and say that Newt Gingrich, as loyal a friend and ally to Ronald Reagan as could be found in the day -- was somehow some crazed anti-Reaganite who got the Cold War wrong. Not only is this not true, its laughably untrue. Quite noticeably in last night's debate, on the heels of the release of that video showing Nancy Reagan herself praising Newt and the news that Michael Reagan is endorsing the ex-Speaker, Romney sheepishly began to back away from all of this zaniness.

He should.

So should Elliott Abrams -- who is much, much smarter, courageous and filled with character than that shoddy NRO piece conveys.

In the immortal words of Cher: "Snap out of it!"

1 posted on 01/27/2012 6:36:10 PM PST by Doc Justice
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To: Doc Justice; Jim Robinson
...main point is that the Newt Gingrich who spoke on the floor of the House on March 21, 1986, was thoroughly pro-Reagan...

A find so good that it's an outstanding example of what FR is all about.

Thanks Doc.

Six Whiskey Tango

2 posted on 01/27/2012 6:47:48 PM PST by 386wt
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To: 386wt

Did you hear Krauthammer trying to put the Genie back in the bottle tonight on Hannity......They’ve been exposed.


3 posted on 01/27/2012 6:53:37 PM PST by hoosiermama
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To: Doc Justice
It is time for wide circulation in Florida of this 2008 video of Michelle Bachman literally paying homage to Gingrich and his role in the conservative movement, here

Send to all Floridians you know.

4 posted on 01/27/2012 6:55:03 PM PST by loveliberty2
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To: Doc Justice

The GOP establishment is pure dreck.

They have to be taken down from the local level upward; the top is rotten.


5 posted on 01/27/2012 6:57:55 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: fightinJAG

ping


6 posted on 01/27/2012 7:07:04 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Doc Justice

WFB’s greatest mistake (Rich Lowry) is defending the Abrams hit piece:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/289558/jeffrey-lords-distortion-rich-lowry

I have my issues with Newt, but the point of NR’s attack is completely lost on me. Either they’re suggesting that Gingrich was anti-Reagan or they’re merely reporting that Gingrich at times criticized the administration. The former is laughably, demonstrably false; the latter is a non-story and completely irrelevant to anything. Reagan and the conservative/anti-communist cause were well-served from attacks from the right. They served to counter the relentless attacks from the left and keep the pressure on to move in the right direction. It’s politics, not personal. Abrams and Lowry know the game. They know this is a non-story. And they know what they did yesterday was a hit job in its purest form.

It’s truly sad to see how far and how fast National Review has fallen under Lowry’s tutelage.


7 posted on 01/27/2012 7:15:42 PM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (Some men just want to watch the world burn.)
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To: hoosiermama

Yesterday Kraut and Bair were making fun of those who are angry at the establishment elites. Looking down their noses just like obama doesn.

See my tag line.


8 posted on 01/27/2012 7:57:04 PM PST by Terry Mross (We need a second party.)
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To: zot; Interesting Times

be sure to read the entire article. As I thought, Abrams’ peice was totally decietful. When I saw it 2 days ago, I remembered that Abrams was a weak on anti-communism guyfrom the 80s.


9 posted on 01/27/2012 8:26:26 PM PST by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. I read the entire article, and I agree with you; Abrams’ attack is totally deceitful.
The GOP establishment isn’t conservative — or honest.


10 posted on 01/27/2012 8:41:28 PM PST by zot
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To: DJ MacWoW
Thanks for the ping, but I have already said when the article came out that what Elliot Abrams says about the incident doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

The political problem for Gingrich, which is not insurmountable IF his supporters would focus on overcoming it rather than wailing about how unfair and awful it is that someone brought up a speech Gingrich actually made, is that Gingrich did actually make this speech. He did actually say the words he's being "accused" of saying. It is actually in the Congressional Record.

Which presented a two-pronged problem:

(1) Explain the context of Gingrich's statement, and --

(2) Persuade people that, even if criticism of Reagan was well-justified, this is not just another example of Gingrich shooting off his mouth in the wrong way at the wrong time, a trait that is holding MANY people back from *enthusiastically* supporting him.

IOW, persuade people that the WAY Gingrich handled his opposition to some of Reagan's policies was not like the stupid WAY he handled his opposition to some of Paul Ryan's plan (going on TV at the most inopportune time and calling it "right-wing social engineering").

Too bad so many seem to want to focus only on their emotional reactions to the politics of this race.

Why not try to figure out WHY the tactic may hurt Gingrich politically and then ADDRESS and UNDERMINE where the "power" in the accusation is coming from?

The power was coming from the fact that Gingrich actually said those things. Focusing on who is saying Gingrich actually said those things does't get you to the actual threat posed by throwing this out there.

In sum, instead of wailing about Elliot Abrams or whoever, and their SPIN on what Gingrich said, why not focus on the fact that Gingrich actually said this (quoted here) --

Here is what Gingrich [in a floor speech] said: “Measured against the scale and momentum of the Soviet empire’s challenge, the Reagan administration has failed, is failing and without a dramatic, fundamental change in strategy will continue to fail. … The burden of the failure frankly must be placed first upon President Reagan.”

This was after Gingrich, as reported in the Congressional Record, had found Reagan responsible for our national “decay”: “Beyond the obvious indicators of decay, the fact is that President Reagan has lost control of the national agenda.”

-- and explain the context (why this criticism, especially when and how made, was valid or at least appropriate, in one's view) --

and explain how the HOW, WHEN and WHERE of this criticism was not evidence of the same political brainfarting that, for example, led Gingrich to go on TV and call Paul Ryan's plan "right-wing social engineering."

The bottom line is that Gingrich's own words here, and how and when he chose to say them, is what had/has the potential to disturb those voters who already are queasy about his political instincts.

Failure to understand that is not helpful.

Yes, some voters will not look at the underlying statements actually made by Gingrich, but will, as you're suggesting here, only "consider the source" that reported the statements actually made by Gingrich. But you're missing an opportunity to help Mr. Gingrich if you fail to understand that the key problem here is how the HOW, WHEN and WHERE of what Newt actually said plays into his reputation for a lack of political discipline.

11 posted on 01/29/2012 3:58:56 AM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: fightinJAG
You are still foolishly buying edits and lies.

Jeffrey Lord:

• Abrams quotes Newt for saying in this speech that Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are "inadequate and will ultimately fail." This is shameful. Why? Here's what Newt said -- in full and in context:

"The fact is that George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick are right in pointing out the enormous gap between President Reagan's strong rhetoric, which is adequate, and his administration's weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail."

12 posted on 01/29/2012 6:58:18 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: loveliberty2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=fgfr1yBmsQ4


13 posted on 01/29/2012 7:37:58 AM PST by BOBWADE
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To: DJ MacWoW
I already know what Newt said, in full and in context.

And I simply don't agree that there's a huge, much less "shameful" substantive difference between:

Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are "inadequate and will ultimately fail," and

"President Reagan's . . . weak policies [toward the Soviets] . . . are inadequate and will ultimately fail."

Please tell me how there is a "shameful" substantive difference between those two statements, and how, in your view, the first is a "lie" and the second is true.

And are you claiming that since, at the time Gingrich points out that he agrees with George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick on their critique of the administration's policies, that Gingrich didn't say what he said? That he didn't actually, himself, say that President Reagan's policies on the Soviet Union were "inadequate and will ultimately fail?"

Sorry, but Gingrich said it. And he was a GOP Congressman when he said it (not a pundit, for example), and he said in an official speech on the floor of this nation's Congress, about a President who was the leader of his own party. That's a little different than George Will or Charles Krauthammer shooting off his mouth, don't you think?

I have already told you repeatedly that if you think Gingrich's criticism was done in an appropriate and/or necessary way, make that argument!

But continuing to claim that Gingrich didn't say what he said, and that he was "shamefully" misquoted or taken out of context, is just embarrassing.

As I have said this is all about electability, which is why I was happy to see a new article today that Gingrich is staking his campaign on electability.

As I explained in detail, applying that to this single point means showing how these statements, that Gingrich did make, don't harm his chances against Obama, or maybe even enhance his chances against Obama!

Man, have you wasted a lot of time and brain cells over trying to show that there's a difference between Reagan's policies towards the Soviets are "inadequate and will ultimately fail," and "President Reagan's . . . weak policies [toward the Soviets] . . . are inadequate and will ultimately fail."

But at least Gingrich finally gets it, that he has to keep bringing everything back to electability rather than what some of his supporters are doing, which is simply whining about how awful the attacks against him are.

14 posted on 01/29/2012 5:22:00 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: fightinJAG
"The fact is that George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick are right in pointing out the enormous gap between President Reagan's strong rhetoric, which is adequate, and his administration's weak policies, which are inadequate and will ultimately fail."
15 posted on 01/29/2012 5:31:55 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: fightinJAG
And he was a GOP Congressman when he said it (not a pundit, for example)

Let me know when you find out just who Jeane Kirkpatrick is.

16 posted on 01/29/2012 5:35:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What a bunch of adolescent hooey.

Do you not know what “for example” means?

It means that, of the several non-Congressman occupations I could have listed, I chose ONE — pundit — as an example.

Weren’t you the poster to whom I had to point out the use of a personal pronoun in the owner’s Newt endorsement?

LOL.

Let me know when you figure out what “for example” means!

Oh, and by the way, you still haven’t answered any of my questions, such as are you disputing that Gingrich actually said what he said. Hmm.

I don’t care who you are, that’s funny!


17 posted on 01/31/2012 8:43:37 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: fightinJAG
Riiiight!

Bye!

18 posted on 01/31/2012 8:51:05 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: DJ MacWoW
I already asked you this and you did not answer:

And are you claiming that since, at the time Gingrich points out that he agrees with George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Irving Kristol, and Jeane Kirkpatrick on their critique of the administration's policies, that Gingrich didn't say what he said?

Are you claiming that he didn't actually, himself, say that President Reagan's policies on the Soviet Union were "inadequate and will ultimately fail?"

Gawd, how many more times are you going to give me the opportunity to keep making my point?

I've asked you this question twice now, and I'd like an answer if you have one. Thanks.

19 posted on 01/31/2012 8:53:32 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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To: DJ MacWoW

How about answering my question before you run off?

That would be the polite thing to do, since you kept posting to me on this point.

Are you claiming that if I say “Newt Gingrich is exactly right that we need a moonbase,” that I’m not saying that we need a moonbase?

I can’t stop laughing.


20 posted on 01/31/2012 8:56:33 PM PST by fightinJAG (So many seem to have lost their sense of smell . . .)
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