Posted on 02/02/2012 8:32:32 PM PST by WesternCulture
Husquavarna made some nice firearms.
And a nice chainsaw
Really? Successful in fighting Islamofascism? Reconnoiter Malmo and Stockholm and let us know what you find.
Correct. I have a Husqvarna Crown Grade .30-06 that is a wonderful, accurate rifle. It has the small ring HVA action and is in mint condition. As Jim Olt wrote about in the 1976 Gun Digest, it is indeed the "Practical Light Sporter.
“Even in 1944 the Nazis could have occupied Sweden if they so desired. It would have been bloody, but they could have done it.”
Maybe, maybe not.
When the Russians invaded Finland in the 1939 Winter War, they got their butts kicked. More than 1 million Russians died. As a Russian general said: “We took just enough territory to bury our dead.”
And the Russians did kick the Nazis’ butts.
In ancient times, people feared the Norsemen. Monks in medieval Britian started their prayers with this: May God protect us from the Norsemen.
I, for one, want these Norsemen on our side.
If you believe Germany could have done so or ever will accomplish that goal in coming history, well, why not join the Harry Potter Vivid Imagination Club?
I think you misunderstood my post.
Another poster wondered why Sweden cooperated (in a limited way) with Nazi Germany in the early days of World War II, in particular by selling Germany iron ore.
My point was that Sweden did not have much choice. Germany could have seized what it wanted from Sweden. As you probably know, Germany had a huge garrison in Norway.
Hitler could have reinforced that garrison, then invaded Sweden and took what he wanted. That was possible up until perhaps early 1944. After that, Germany was too weak.
So my point was that Sweden had to play a careful game to stay independent in those terrible times.
seriously? What do guns have to do with fighting?
It would have been, in time. Sooner or later everyone had to make a choice concerning the Nazi cause. Nazi's occupied Norway, your neighbor, by force. And Nazi troops moved through Sweden for the war with Russia. Austria joined the Nazi's, the Czechs fell, the Pole's fell, the Finn's joined, the Belgians fell, the French fell and joined and fell, Greece fell, Romania joined, and the list goes on. The Hungarian prime Minister Pál Teleki committed suicide when he realized that Hungary had been drawn into the Nazi net. The Russians resisted - not that they had much choice.
If there was a country that could honestly say the war wasn't our fight , it was the US. We deliberately provoked the Germans before our entry by providing escort to Brit convoys at sea, sinking German U-boats in the process. Then we were attacked by the Japanese, not the Germans. But we fought Nazi's and Japanese, prioritizing our resources to free Europe first . And we did this not because we love to see our sons die on distant shores, but because we felt a responsibility to aid those who were fighting for their freedom against tyranny.
Since WW II we have spent 5% of our GDP on military, defying tyranny world wide, fighting for the free peoples of the world. And I'm sure we've made missteps, we're only human. But the US provided the shield which protected you from your neighbor, Stalin. And, Kruschev, and Breznev, and Putin, and all the other would be world conquerors. You have lived your entire life in the Pax Americana, without ever giving credit or even being aware of the blood shed on your behalf. And, theoretically, none of these wars were our fight. But if we didn't fight them, who would?
When Europe condescends to tell us of well-run socialism and how she has risen above our war-mongering ways, how we should model our country in the form of European 'enlightenment'; when Europe opposes us to stand with tyrant after tyrant, rather than helping us preserve liberty, I can't help but wonder how these 'pacifist' states will cope without a benevolent protector. Apparently the Pax Americana is at an end. It will be interesting to see how the aggressors respond when you tell them its not your fight.
Best Wishes.
Like it or not, my country has been very successful in fighting Islamofascism.
“It was not our war, anyway”
If ever there was a war for civilized men, it was WW II.
And it was “[y]our war”, in a way, since your iron ore was sold to Germany for conversion into weapons and munitions aimed at others.
You don’t win wars with your mouth, boy.
Another two military juggernauts to be feared, lol!
- Gotta like your expression of spirit, whatever your name is, fellow freeper”.
To me, it hardly spells out Gladstone Gander.
So why question the obvious?
Superpowers do not always win wars.
What they're good at, through being mere superpowers, is survival as such.
If Sweden and US had a go at it (an all out military confrontation that is) Sweden would cripple America and vice versa, but Sweden would most likely stay crippled for a longer time afterwards as a consequence.
Not even a ruthless dictator like Stalin managed much against a proud, well organized nation with high scores in the domain of IQ-tests like Finland.
Among other tactics employed, thousands of sharp “pukko-knives” saw to it that many Russian lives were freed from their bearers, liberated from their pointless enslaved existence and brainwashed souls, in the emptiness of the dark Nordic winter night.
If you are insane enough to attack Vikings (and/or Finns), how do you prepare for the backlash?
It will come.
What you dont understand is the US would have air dominance over Sweden in short order. Then we could assert our will on the ground and you really couldn’t do anything about it after your air defenses are crippled. You dont have a space based network of spy sats either to help you. At sea you would horribly lose in a battle of attrition vs the US. I am a realist and Im glad you love your country, but those are the facts.
I’m not disagreeing with the idea that America most likely would defeat Sweden in a conventional war.
But please remember what difficulties France and The US faced when trying to deal with the Viet Cong some decades ago.
Or the problems Soviet had with tiny Finland in WW2.
Compared to the US, Sweden is definitely not technologically inferior (like Vietnam was compared to France and America). Sooner, Sweden is ahead of the US in certain key areas of military technology crucial for waging war in our corner of the World.
No one could argue with the fact that USA has a great deal of material and human resources, but likewise, no one could deny Swedish engineering is cutting edge.
Thank you for your post.
While I do think Swedish engineering and financial policy deserve praise no matter what, I for one agree Europe owes a lot to America.
I’m not the only European to view things this way.
Whenever I’ve talked about these issues on my trips down the Continent, Germans, Italians, French and others have agreed we Europeans could do more.
It’s not fair that America solely should defend freedom.
All nations wishing to call themselves democratic, enlightened and civilized, especially those boasting a GDP/capita exceeding that of the US ought to face responsibility.
Furthermore, although America should not be considered an European colony, America is our foremost ally.
This is a prime reason why I’m posting here. If I ever cause irritation, take it like something coming from an annoying brother.
No, the typical European does not hate America.
America fascinates us!
“Today, the US isn’t the only nation that could go wherever it wants, do whatever it pleases and especially not finish the operation without leaving a trace. “
What the Hell does THAT mean? We finish what we start. It’s you slackers that can’t keep up.
No kidding. Sweden is overrun by mooselimbs. Last count had it at least 5% of the population are muslim immigrants. They are stealing, robbing, and committed aweful crimes of hatred against Jews and others.
“What the Hell does THAT mean? We finish what we start. It’s you slackers that can’t keep up.”
- At least Sweden is a fine, irrefutable, example of a European country that is able of finishing things started.
Did America finish WWII when it had the chance?
The Nazis were defeated alright, but what about the Communists?
Tiny Finland grabbed the bull by the horns and gave Stalin hell.
That small country and its army today rightgeously are respected worldwide.
It’s a good thing to dispose of vast resources, it’s distressing not knowing how to use them.
“Did America finish WWII when it had the chance? The Nazis were defeated alright, but what about the Communists?”
You’re more full of poop than a Christmas goose. WWII was never about the Communists. Just how stupid are you?
“Finland ceded 11% of its pre-war territory and 30% of its economic assets to the Soviet Union.” You consider THAT a win???
Neither the Swedes nor Finland finished off the Communists. Just just what freaking claim are you trying to make there.
Piss off this web site if you don’t like the US.
F*** You!
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