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'The Oldest (Neanderthal) Work Of Art Ever': 42,000-Year-Old Paintings Of Seals Found In Spain
The Daily Mail ^
| 2-7-2012
| Tom Worden
Posted on 02/08/2012 10:36:42 AM PST by blam
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Limestone caves have no “walls.”
They tend to form in washed out aquifer lenses.
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02/08/2012 2:19:27 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
To: Deb
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posted on
02/08/2012 2:20:34 PM PST
by
starlifter
(Pullum sapit)
To: Deb
What?? - You’re an art critic now?
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posted on
02/08/2012 2:25:13 PM PST
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editor-surveyor
(No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
To: editor-surveyor
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posted on
02/08/2012 2:28:01 PM PST
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Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
To: Deb
I go where the need is.I heard that some were asking for a learned artistic analysis of this Seal ...
To: ml/nj
The Lincoln memorial’s basement is similar to the basement of the Alamo.
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posted on
02/08/2012 4:00:12 PM PST
by
Vaquero
To: blam
Nice caves. Better visit soon, before they revert to Islam.
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02/08/2012 4:22:00 PM PST
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BobL
(I don't care about his past - Santorum will BRING THE FIGHT to Obama)
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Wow, smokin' find! There's so much overlap and so many overpainted images in well-known art caves, it wouldn't come as a surprise to find a long development -- all Neandertal -- layer over layer in all these caves.
Thanks blam.
The Neandertal Enigma by James Shreeve in local libraries Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127] To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. |
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posted on
02/08/2012 7:11:22 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(FReep this FReepathon!)
To: ml/nj
Stalactites hang on tightly to the ceiling so they don’t fall off. Stalagmites are trying with all their might to reach the ceiling.
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posted on
02/08/2012 9:12:08 PM PST
by
Bellflower
(The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
To: blam
NERJA CAVES VIDEO AT LINKTraces of pottery, ceramics, prehistoric tools, human remains and wall paintings have all been found within the caves. Since the caves discovery over fifty years ago, more than one million pieces have been discovered and catalogued.
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posted on
02/08/2012 9:21:45 PM PST
by
Fred Nerks
(FAIR DINKUM!)
To: Fred Nerks
That was excellent. Thanks.
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posted on
02/09/2012 12:17:53 AM PST
by
blam
To: dfwgator
To: aruanan; SunkenCiv; blam; decimon; All
Forty-two thousand years ago was the depths of the last Ice Age. Conditions are generally dryer during very cold weather. Some of our heavy snows have been caused by warmer weather. Another question, how do we know it was Neanderthal, and not CroMagnon?
To: muir_redwoods; ml/nj
Stala
ctite... C ceiling
Stalagmite... G ground
That's the way us Neanderthals were taught to remember.
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posted on
02/09/2012 3:57:34 PM PST
by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
To: blam
Perhaps these were painted by Neanderthal women. Women, after all, like to decorate the cave ... men would be just as happy to leave it in the same condition in which they found it. I certainly know a lot of single guys still living in undecorated caves, with nothing except a huge TV on a milk crate, and some old bucket seats.
Or these might have been painted by Neanderthal women as a form of shopping list. “Don’t forget to bring home a few seals, dear. We’ll eat them for dinner, and I could also use a new coat.”
To: worst-case scenario
"Or these might have been painted by Neanderthal women as a form of shopping list. Dont forget to bring home a few seals, dear. Well eat them for dinner, and I could also use a new coat. " Or, they may have been preparing for Global Warming and wanted to leave an archive for any survivors. (us)
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posted on
02/09/2012 6:10:03 PM PST
by
blam
To: gleeaikin
Forty-two thousand years ago was the depths of the last Ice Age.
We're currently in the Pliocene-Quarternary ice age; we're just in one of its interglacial periods (lasting about 10,000 to 12,000 thousand years, in some cases much longer). The current ice age has been going on for well over two and a half million years. Twenty thousand years ago we were still in the last glacial period (40,000 to 100,000 years in length, the more recent ones nearer 100,000). The frequency (and severity) of our storms is controlled more by El Nino and La Nina events and other multi-decadal oscillations than it is simply because of an overall warmer global temperature. Besides, there has been no warming since 1997 and the last decade has seen dramatic cooling.
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posted on
02/09/2012 7:10:21 PM PST
by
aruanan
To: Servant of the Cross
Um... classy. With a slight mackerel scent.
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posted on
02/10/2012 10:51:44 AM PST
by
Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
To: blam; SunkenCiv
Ok. Here’s my question:
Those stalactites look to be pretty long and the seals seem to be in a long line going up into the upper area of the cave so:
1. Did the Neanderthals invent the first ladder to complete the seals in one sitting?
2.Did they hang the seals and outline them? Is that blood used as a medium? (I ask because my uncle has a painting from a famous Spanish painter who used the blood from bulls killed in the Fiesta Brava as his medium for bullfight paintings.)
3.Were they painted on the stalactite over time as it grew longer? Would have been a world’s record for the longest “sitting” I think.
Just askin’ cause any answer is cool.
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posted on
02/10/2012 11:11:18 AM PST
by
wildbill
(You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
To: wildbill; blam; SunkenCiv
Good questions all.
I have a question about Ancient art (not cave drawings)
It seems to me that when archaeologists discover some very old pottery paintings/art, it is ALWAYS described as, and generally looks very good. By good I mean the artists seems to have an artistic talent.
So, My question is: Where are all the “BAD” attempts at “ART/Decoration” ?
Just a thought.
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posted on
02/10/2012 12:36:09 PM PST
by
Zeneta
(Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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