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Tocqueville Foresaw the Obama Years
Rush Limbaugh.com ^ | February 20, 2012 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/20/2012 2:48:50 PM PST by Kaslin

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RUSH: Michael Barone had a piece in National Review Online that I saw posted late last night. It's entitled, "Reversing Obama's Soft Despotism." What intrigued me or what caught my attention about this piece was its references to Alexis de Tocqueville as it relates to our democracy and the Republicans. And let me just paraphrase a little bit here about what Barone says. "They want to turn back the Obama Democrats' advance into what Alexis de Tocqueville ... characterized as soft despotism. Tocqueville, after describing in 'Democracy in America' how Americans avoided the perils of equality..." That right there caught me: "The perils of equality." Now, just stop and think for a moment.

Our culture right now is based on the flawed premise that we can all be equal, particularly that we can all enjoy equal outcomes in life. The left has inculcated in as many people as possible that the definition of "fairness" = "equal," and that everybody can be equal, and that everybody can end up being the same, and that we should be, and that that will lead to heaven on earth. Tocqueville's book was written in 1830. He traveled around America and studied what it was that makes this place special. We hadn't even been in existence a hundred years. And Tocqueville comes over and wants to get to the root of what is unique about America, and thus the book Democracy in America.

And in that book he described "how Americans avoided the perils of equality," not inequality. And what he described Americans doing to avoid "the perils of equality [was] forming voluntary associations, engaging in local government and believing in religions that disciplined their pursuit of self-interest into a pursuit of virtue..." Now, stop and think of that for a moment: "The perils of equality." Everybody can't be equal. They knew in 1830 that that would be the death of the country, the concept of everybody was equal in terms of outcomes. Everybody had the same thing, everybody was the same thing, everybody did the same thing, everybody earned the same thing. That kind of equality.

They were "engaging in local government and believing in religions that disciplined their pursuit of self-interest..." Self-interest was a good thing. Self-interest was the pursuit of happiness. But where were the guardrails? They didn't come from the government. The guardrails were provided by religion. That's where the morality came from: the morality that tamed "their pursuit of self-interest into a pursuit of virtue," which takes me back to Foster Friess and the static he got for simply describing virtue. I'm still getting the biggest kick out of imagining an aspirin tablet between Andrea Mitchell's knees. I mean, he was just describing virtue! It was not... It's even wrong to say he was making a bad joke. It was just a way of describing a virtuous woman back 30 or 40 years ago in a lighthearted, humorous way.

But the point here that Tocqueville says, that the pursuit of self-interest was disciplined by a morality that came from religion that turned it all into a pursuit of virtue. And, of course, all of these things are laughed at now. That's old-fashioned, fuddy-duddy, that doesn't apply, Mr. Limbaugh, that's old-fashioned. Virtue, that doesn't go well with this nonjudgmental society that we have today.

And then Tocqueville wrote this: "... an immense tutelary power is elevated, which alone takes charge of assuring their enjoyments and watching over their fate. It is absolute, detailed, rigid, far-seeing and mild. It would resemble paternal power if, like that, it had for its object to prepare men for manhood; but on the contrary, it seeks only to keep them fixed irrevocably in childhood." He's describing government, the way a government seeks, a totalitarian government seeks in a soft despotism or a soft tyranny, is to take charge of providing people's enjoyments and take charge over their fate. "We'll protect you. We'll make sure everything goes well and you don't get hurt, and if you do get hurt you can sue for a gazillion dollars, and we'll take our cut."

"It would resemble paternal power if, like that, it had for its object to prepare men for manhood; but on the contrary," that's not what government does with its attempt to assure us our enjoyments and watch over our fate. Government "seeks only to keep them fixed irrevocably in childhood." This is Tocqueville in 1830: Only to keep people irrevocably in childhood. That nails it. That's exactly what the left tries to do. Everybody remains a child, in need, immature, childish. "It willingly works for their happiness; but it wants to be the unique agent and sole arbiter," of that happiness, i.e., totalitarian states, soft despotism.

One final quote from Tocqueville. "Thus, taking each individual by turns in its powerful hands and kneading him as it likes, the sovereign extends its arms over society as a whole; it covers its surface with a network of small, complicated, painstaking, uniform rules through which the most original minds and the most vigorous souls cannot clear a way to surpass the crowd; it does not break wills, but it softens them, bends them and directs them; it rarely forces one to act, but it constantly opposes itself to one’s acting."

This is the key to this passage: "It does not destroy, it prevents things from being born."
Totalitarian government, soft despotism, well-intentioned, you can't take care of yourself, we'll do it for you. It kills the spirit. It prevents things from being born. It kills off entrepreneurism, creativity, ingenuity. "It does not tyrannize, it hinders, compromises, enervates, extinguishes, dazes and finally reduces each nation to being nothing more than a herd of timid and industrial animals of which the government is the shepherd." That's what he was saying America was not, but he wrote that it could easily become that if the ability to fight equality was lost.

Now, this is in a Barone piece. I have to tell you, like I've recommended to you in the past, Mark Levin's book, Ameritopia, makes a star out of Tocqueville. Practically every relevant thing Tocqueville wrote has been explained and written about in Levin's book. Barone just takes a couple pieces here. But I wanted to share it with you because we're in the midst of a culture war whether you want to admit it or not. We always have been. It is at times prominent, sometimes it fades away to below the surface, but it's always there, because the problems in the culture and the seeming perversion and rot that's taking place eat away at people either consciously and subconsciously at the same time. So when somebody like Santorum surfaces and brings all this to the forefront by just simple quirk of fate, people end up discussing it and we see where people fall out, and we can see that the Democrats and the libs and Obama are scared to death of this topic.

They claim to be happy as they can be, "Oh, wow, this is our ticket to victory. These hayseed hick conservative pro-lifers, Good Lord, they're rising up in prominence, and we couldn't have anything better," but they're scared to death of 'em because there are millions of 'em. If they're inspired they vote and not one of them vote Democrat, and they know this. Hence Obama and everybody the on left's attempt to scare everybody with Santorum and probably every other Republican, too, wants to deny women contraception, wants to deny them abortion, wants to deny them all of this. It's a campaign of pure negativity and scaremongering because there's not one thing Obama has in his record he can say, "You want four more years of this, vote for me."

There's not one aspect of Obama's term so far that anybody wants any more of, or a majority of people do, and they know it. So it's back to the usual tactics of lying and impugning the opposition, discrediting them and scaring everybody. But it's not gonna work. There is no alternative. You want more of Obama? Do we want more loss of liberty and freedom? Do we want Obamacare fully implemented? The polling data on every Obama issue, majority oppose it. Still in the sixties, opposing Obamacare's full implementation.

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RUSH: I'm still stuck on and amazed by the Tocqueville phrase "the perils of equality" and how the original Americans fought "the perils of equality." Back in the early 1800s, our population, our country, our culture was hell-bent on making sure there was no such thing as "equality" in terms of equality of outcome. And they actually looked at that as a peril, and they formed associations in various ways to make sure that that didn't happen.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ameritopia; detocqueville; marklevin; rushlive
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1 posted on 02/20/2012 2:48:53 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

We are all created equal, but it pretty much goes downhill after that...........


2 posted on 02/20/2012 3:06:31 PM PST by Red Badger (If you are unemployed long enough, you are no longer unemployed.)
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To: Kaslin
THE MIGHTY MIGHTY RUSH SETS US ALL STRAIGHT YET ANOTHER TIME....
3 posted on 02/20/2012 3:11:52 PM PST by flat
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To: Kaslin

Anybody hasn’t studied him, you’re missing out bigtime. I’ll save you some time here: best buy is the Library of America’s volume, go to www.loa.org and find Tocqueville’s “Democracy in America.” (I think it currently runs about $40 and is worth every damb penny!)

There are also some college-level explorations of his work on youtube, but they need to be taken with a grain of salt.

Special note to homeschoolers; this and Federalist Papers are absolutely essential — do NOT omit it from your curriculum!!!


4 posted on 02/20/2012 3:19:24 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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To: Kaslin
Madison and Jefferson foresaw the Obama situation - and I describe it as a "situation" purposely.

This nation is in a potentially and likely fatal predicament.

Obama is just the latest symptom, not the embodiment of the disease.

I am thinking more and more that the mind disease which generates acolytes and "leaders" intent on destroying this country is not an accident. It is a process of evolution that was in evidence before this country was founded. Sure there were people who urged it along (Woodrow Wilson, FDR), but it has always been there. We may be seeing it come to a head and I feel sorry for my children and grandchildren.

5 posted on 02/20/2012 3:45:57 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Lady Lucky

You can get ‘Democracy’, the Federalist Papers, and a lot of other books and writings from around the founding of the nation for free on Kindle.


6 posted on 02/20/2012 4:13:56 PM PST by GenXFreedomFighter (If you don't vote for the Republican nominee, more than shame on you. You're on the other side!)
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To: Kaslin

Just checked on amazon — you can get a used copy for around $14 plus shipping...or ask your local library to borrow a copy from another library in your state. But get it!! Goldhammer’s translation is superb, no other comes close.


7 posted on 02/20/2012 4:15:56 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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To: flat

Ugh! Rush, smoke, ceegar smoke at that, oh my eyes... :(


8 posted on 02/20/2012 4:17:13 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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To: Kaslin

Another piece of literature that every conservative should have in his arsenal against liberals is the Grand Inquisitor by Doystoyevsky.

Here is the wikipedia synopsis http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Inquisitor

and he is the text:

http://www.webster.edu/~corbetre/philosophy/existentialism/dostoevsky/grand.html


9 posted on 02/20/2012 4:19:00 PM PST by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: GenXFreedomFighter

The thing is, Tocqueville needs a translation, and the best by far is Goldhammer’s, which is the Library of America edition of Democracy.


10 posted on 02/20/2012 4:19:52 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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11 posted on 02/20/2012 4:20:14 PM PST by onyx (SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC, DONATE MONTHLY. If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, let me know.)
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To: radpolis
Another piece of literature that every conservative should have in his arsenal against liberals is the Grand Inquisitor by Doystoyevsky.

Absolutely. I'm a fanatic on these matters. Read Brothers K, and Crime and Punishment, or don't you dare tell me you're well-educated. They are part of the bare minimum for literacy.

(On the other hand, if you couldn't get through Dostoevsky's "The Idiot," I understand. I feel your boredom and your eyes rolling back in your head. You could go right to Don Quixote or almost anything of Voltaire, Dumas, or Turgenev of all things, and be vastly improved thereby. Not all Dostoevsky -- like not all Shakespeare -- is Grade A.)

To those of you who haven't "gotten" Dostoevsky, please try another translation. It makes a huge difference.

12 posted on 02/20/2012 4:36:09 PM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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To: Kaslin
We hadn't even been in existence a hundred years

If we can go from zero to envy of the world in less than a hundred years once, I guess we can do it again.

Here's to going from Zero to Peak again.

13 posted on 02/20/2012 5:16:21 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (religion + guns = liberty)
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To: Kaslin
Be sure your kids read George Orwell's book Animal Farm or read it yourself if you haven't already. How quickly in the book the sacred proposition that "...all animals are equal..." morphs into "...all animals are equal, but some more equal than others...".
14 posted on 02/20/2012 5:26:37 PM PST by The Great RJ ("The problem with socialism is that pretty soon you run out of other people's money" M. Thatcher)
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To: elkfersupper
It is a process of evolution that was in evidence before this country was founded. Sure there were people who urged it along (Woodrow Wilson, FDR), but it has always been there.

OIf course it has 'always been there'... It's been there since Gan Eden. I believe it's called "basic human nature", and something we are called upon *daily* to combat in ourseleves, and at times, in those around us...

the infowarrior

15 posted on 02/20/2012 5:28:14 PM PST by infowarrior
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16 posted on 02/20/2012 5:35:45 PM PST by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Kaslin

Took two graduate level courses in Democracy in America, Volumes 1 & 2. Some of the best classes I took in College, with the exceptions of those taught by Douglas Dalgleish (RIP). EVERY American should read boh volumes of Democracy in America.


17 posted on 02/20/2012 8:14:33 PM PST by Hoosier-Daddy ( "It does no good to be a super power if you have to worry what the neighbors think." BuffaloJack)
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To: Lady Lucky

target has sale on big girl undies....buy some....


18 posted on 02/21/2012 1:12:05 AM PST by flat
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To: flat

I find the photo unappealing, you need to come to grips with that. Or at least find a more mature way to deal with it.
You might consider resizing your photos, too!


19 posted on 02/21/2012 6:21:35 AM PST by Lady Lucky ( Exposure to the Son may prevent burning.)
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