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Obama Eligibility Hearing in Arizona tomorrow
http://obamaballotchallenge.com/arizona-obama-ballot-challenge-hearing-tomorrow-in-tucson ^ | Feb 22, 2012 | obamaballotchallenge.com

Posted on 02/22/2012 10:09:16 AM PST by jdirt

Please attend hearing if you can.


TOPICS: Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; arpaio; certifigate; eligibility; hearing; kerkorian; naturalborncitizen; obama
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1 posted on 02/22/2012 10:09:32 AM PST by jdirt
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To: jdirt
Posted By Pamela Barnett at 22 February, at 17 : 58 PM

Arizona Obama Ballot Challenge Hearing Tomorrow in Tucson

Please go and support Ken Allen. Status hearing is tomorrow at 9am on the forth floor rm 486 of the superior court house in Tucson with Judge Gordon.

Arizona Superior Court in Pima County
110 W. Congress St., Tucson, AZ 85701
(520) 740-4200, TDD (520) 740-8887

Obama Arizona Ballot Challenge Order to Appear Feb. 23

2 posted on 02/22/2012 10:15:02 AM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: jdirt

there is not a judge on the planet who is going to disallow hussein to be on a ballot.


3 posted on 02/22/2012 10:22:56 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: SteveH
Judge Gordon

A Jan Brewer appointee, with superficially good qualification.

Never know. He may go sideways on this, but he isn't a foreign national like Malihi.

Interesting that it's in Tucson.

4 posted on 02/22/2012 10:25:24 AM PST by Regulator
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To: rockabyebaby

Yup.

Charlie Brown, Lucy, football.


5 posted on 02/22/2012 10:25:33 AM PST by shelterguy
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To: rockabyebaby

They have to play their cards right in Arizona. After Georgia crapped out, lo and behold, Georgia got approval for NOT ONE, but TWO nuclear power plants. What will Arizona get?


6 posted on 02/22/2012 10:29:42 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Enterprise
What will Arizona get?

I'm sure Senator what's his name will support this judge.

Sarc!

8 posted on 02/22/2012 10:33:11 AM PST by OldNavyVet
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To: Enterprise

so this whole keep hussein off the ballot thingy is just a ploy to get “stuff”?


9 posted on 02/22/2012 10:34:20 AM PST by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: rockabyebaby
there is not a judge on the planet who is going to disallow hussein to be on a ballot.
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
10 posted on 02/22/2012 10:44:57 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: shelterguy

Thanks for giving your support to an opinion.


11 posted on 02/22/2012 10:45:56 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Enterprise
What will Arizona get?
Actual border security?
12 posted on 02/22/2012 10:46:52 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: rockabyebaby
"so this whole keep hussein off the ballot thingy is just a ploy to get “stuff”?"

I honestly don't believe that Taitz went through all that effort just so that Georgia could "get stuff." Others though, apparently saw an opportunity to "get stuff" and went for it. But - now that the precedent has been established - it remains to be seen how many other people will sell out the citizens of this country to "get stuff."

13 posted on 02/22/2012 10:47:34 AM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: rockabyebaby
so this whole keep hussein off the ballot thingy is just a ploy to get “stuff”?
Your cart is in front of your horse.
14 posted on 02/22/2012 10:48:51 AM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Enterprise

Hey, there you go!

Maybe we can get some drilling approved though the same method!

Come on, states! Get with the program! You can “get stuff” from the fedgov if you first challenge 0bama’s eligibility and then refuse to hold him ineligible.


15 posted on 02/22/2012 10:52:52 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Enterprise
Georgia got approval for NOT ONE, but TWO nuclear power plants. What will Arizona get?

Three nuke plants

16 posted on 02/22/2012 11:02:05 AM PST by spokeshave (Mitt will release his tax returns when 0bambi releases his Birth Certificate and grades)
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To: jdirt
Thanks for the link, Joe.

Sincerely wish Mr. Allen the best of luck. Now let me play devil’s advocate.

Why do these people continue to insist as attorney Orion advised Malihi, and as Allen does in this complaint that, “It doesn’t matter where he was born. It never did.” What is possibly gained by that stipulation?

We all know there are two issue, birthplsce and citizen parents. At this time, birthplace is a state issue and the other is a federal issue.

From the complaint at page 3, line 4:
“10. 42 U.S.C. 1988 permits a State’s Common law to decide a court case if there is no adequate Federal remedy.”

California’s Supreme Court, IIRC correctly, did indeed hold there was a federal remedy to the state action before it, and pointed to the Joint Session of Congress, a session specifically called for the sole purpose of certify the election results.

The two-parent issue is a federal issue because it concerns a yet to be rendered interpretation of the Consitution. As attorney Orion also told Malihi, the issue has not yet been resolved judicially. If true, and I believe it is, then a state is not going to touch the two-parent federal issue.

Perhaps the best case result at the state level is that we find a state court that will render a clear ruling on the necessity of a candidate producing certified copies of birth documents to the requesting state.

We need a plaintiff who recognizes that birthplace is an inseparable part of NBC, and who will seek in his complaint a ruling that in order to avoid fraud, it is incumbent upon a state to require the candidates it will send to D.C. to satisfy the birthplace element. How plain and simple is that?

17 posted on 02/22/2012 12:00:18 PM PST by frog in a pot (I am not a birther, I am an NBC'er)
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To: Enterprise

Here’s a few suggestions that would be helpful:

A) There’s no legal proof that Barry Soetoro Hussein Obama was born in the United States. Under the Federal Rules of Evidence, a birth certificate would be self-authenticating, as long as a verifiable, certified copy is presented in court and passes reasonable scrutiny.

B) The Supreme Court provided an exclusive definition of natural-born citizen in at least TWO landmark cases, Minor v. Happersett AND U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, the latter of which confirmed the definition in the former: all children born in the country of citizen parents

C) The Minor definition left NOTHING open to question. It reviewed other combinations of parents and place, but only characterized one combination as natural-born. The others were dependent on solving doubts in the 14th amendment and in following statutory law on naturalization,.

D) When WKA discussed Common Law citizenship, it was only being applied to resident aliens, who had permanent residents and domicil. Obama’s papa was deported and his Mama was an emigrant (to Indonesia).

E) The Treaty of 1783 prohibited dual citizenshp and allowed that persons born in the country to alien parents held the citizenship of the father at birth subject to election upon majority. This makes Obama a British subject at birth. If he never renounced his British citizenship, then he is still legally a British subject and cannot be a natural-born citizen, even if he were born on the White House lawn. This principle was affirmed in Inglis v. Sailor’s Snug Harbor and Shanks v. Dupont. For Obama to be a natural-born citizen he has to legally prove the place of birth and show that both of his parent adhered to U.S. allegiance.


18 posted on 02/22/2012 12:31:20 PM PST by edge919
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To: spokeshave

THREE! Hot mercy Martha!


19 posted on 02/22/2012 12:37:18 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: MrB
"Come on, states! Get with the program! You can “get stuff” from the fedgov if you first challenge 0bama’s eligibility and then refuse to hold him ineligible."

BINGO!!!! You want oil, nuclear power, maybe even coal powered energy? Well then challenge Obama's eligibility and your wish will be granted!!

20 posted on 02/22/2012 12:40:10 PM PST by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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