Presidential Pork Kills Keystone

Townhall.com ^ | March 9, 2012 | John Ransom

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I know of no refinery or other facility that has the capacity to load or unload 1500 cars every day. There would have to be some very large discharge tanks on the unload end to accomodate the arrivals.
With the heavy gravity of this oil, the cars might have to be steamed overnight, so add four or five days of product at the off-load.
Think about the jam-up of 7500 asphalt capable jumbos... Yike !

[thackney]

With the heavy gravity of this oil

It depends if it goes through an upgrader in Canada first. The production that is shipping Bitumen is diluting it with Naphtha or the like first, referred to as Dilbit.

There have been several bitumen upgraders built in Canada and more planned. With this process a rather high grade of light Syncrude is produced.

Essentially the problems you discuss with heavies are a problem for the pipelines as well. Meaning that the heavy gravity issues are already resolved.

The volume issue still exists. This would have to be broken up to many different refineries every day to be handled. But the pipeline would do the same so also no real change.

Cheers

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I've had a look at some of the gravities on post upgrader oil and have wondered how it moves through a pipe.
Didn't some light cuts get routed back to Alberta as cutter stock ?

[thackney]

I've had a look at some of the gravities on post upgrader oil and have wondered how it moves through a pipe.

You have seen more than I then. I have read the descriptions of what the upgrader is supposed to accomplish. I wonder if they blend in bitumen to the limit of the ability to flow.

It may be the difference between a minimal upgrading and full upgrading, done differently by different companies.

http://www.ualberta.ca/~gray/Library/Tutorials/Upgrading/sld001.htm

Didn't some light cuts get routed back to Alberta as cutter stock ?

I believe that is true.

[thackney]

Here is the output specification from one of the largest oil sands producer (Syncrude) in Canada.

http://www.cdnoilsands.com/energy-marketing/ProductSpecifications/default.aspx

[snowsislander]

The actual amendment is Senate Amendment 1537 to Senate Bill 1813" (pdf format) (SB 1813 is the current budget bill.)

The tally can be found on this page.

The Hall of Shame:

NAYs ---42
Akaka (D-HI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Blumenthal (D-CT)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brown (D-OH)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Cardin (D-MD)
Carper (D-DE)
Coons (D-DE)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Franken (D-MN)
Gillibrand (D-NY)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Kohl (D-WI)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (ID-CT)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Merkley (D-OR)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Sanders (I-VT)
Schumer (D-NY)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Udall (D-CO)
Udall (D-NM)
Warner (D-VA)
Whitehouse (D-RI)
Wyden (D-OR)

Not Voting - 2
Kirk (R-IL)
Thune (R-SD)

[Safetgiver]

And why is Philadelphia on that map?...Marcus Hook, which is dieing this year.

[zeugma]

BFL

[zeugma]

What are the names of the 11 Democrats who broke ranks with Bottleneck Reid, and the former foreign student from Harvard Law School?

you can't read too much into the 11, since the dems had enough to stop the vote. Several were likely given 'permission' by the party to break ranks due to election concerns.

[liberalh8ter]

You think it was a coincidence that Obama told Reid and Pelosi, just the day before, he would not be contributing to their campaign coffers? Bet ya they're getting the money now, along with all the others who went against it. I'll bet ya that's what he told them in the phone calls he made.

[Graewoulf]

Thanks!

I am looking for ANY crack in the stonewall of the Free Lunch Democrat Party.

I have no interest in the “true believers” because they are no longer subject to rational thought.

I am fully aware of the possibility of “allowing” free-lunchers to look good to their voters, but it also puts them in the traitor class with the robo-voting, true-believers of the Free Lunch Democrat Party.

BTW, who ultimately pays for the free lunch?

[Michael.SF.]

BNR has 61 loading facilities in the Bakken region alone. They are well positioned to move the oil to multiple locations. Perhaps not all of it, but a significant amount of it will move via RR.

[Graewoulf]

” - - - Not Voting - 2
Kirk (R-IL)
Thune (R-SD)”

Why were these turkeys playing hooky? Maybe they weren’t “shovel ready.”

[Graewoulf]

Excellent! Bookmarked for leisure reading by anti jobs, Free Lunch Democrat lurkers.

[MamaTexan]

the Democrats presumably prefer the new triangle-slavery route. Canada ships oil to China, China creates jobs, US imports dollars from China to pay for entitlement programs to support people who don’t have jobs here domestically.

Of COURSE they do!

It keeps our economy down while inflating the economies of other countries thus keeping their dream of one day being the 'elite' ruling class of a one world government alive.

On the other hand, it's not nice to try to fool the Laws of Nature.

One day, the payback's gonna be a real Bitch.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Just as soon as the GOP is done with its self immolation campaign.