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1 posted on 03/22/2012 7:30:49 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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One lesson to be taken from this situation (and I’m not siding against Zimmerman on this) -

if you’re carrying, don’t intentionally put yourself in a situation where you might have to shoot someone.

Another lesson - carry something less than lethal, like pepperspray or a tazer, so that it’s not “all or nothing” in defending yourself.


2 posted on 03/22/2012 7:33:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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somewhat related, wish the Senator had the same outrage to call for a special prosecutor over the 100's of deaths from Holders F & F.
5 posted on 03/22/2012 7:37:24 AM PDT by opentalk
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Can I ask a stupid question? Ready to be flamed, but here goes.............

Why is this a racial case? They say that Zimmerman is a “white Hispanic”, (interesting combo) and that the victim is black.

What I wonder is this — Isn’t it tragic that somebody was shot and killed? Wouldn’t it be tragic no matter the race or ethnicity of people involved? Wouldn’t it be just as tragic if a white victim was shot by a black neighborhood watch person?

So now this is a cause celebre, with the likes of Al Sharpton weighing in, along with various and sundry Hollywood idiots, and even Michael Moore weighing in. But why is it a racial case?

Is there any evidence of any kind that Zimmerman was racist, and shot because the kid was black? Or is this whole thing being enflamed by liberals and race baiting hustlers??????


8 posted on 03/22/2012 7:43:07 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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I sure hope Gov. Scott ignores this request and saves the state some needed funds. There are more than enough “investigations” in process. It’s time to sit back and let the process take its’ course. As a former commercial banker, we used to live by the the following when presented a loan request: If you want a quick answer, it’s no. If you want to give me time to review all pertinent data, then maybe. This should apply to most situations as well.


10 posted on 03/22/2012 7:48:21 AM PDT by Boomer One
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I can only find news items overly sympathetic to the victim. No news about Zimerman’s side of the story?


13 posted on 03/22/2012 7:52:05 AM PDT by ransacked
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“In my community today, they’re very upset. They’re very excited. They’re ready to ignite,” Siplin, a Democrat, said at a press conference in the Capitol Wednesday afternoon.”

Nikes on sale?


14 posted on 03/22/2012 7:53:43 AM PDT by Mashood
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Waiting for Al “Resist We Much” Sharpton to call for the UN in intervene in 3..2..1..


22 posted on 03/22/2012 8:00:22 AM PDT by ScottinVA (A single drop of American blood for muslims is one drop too many!)
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I hope Gov. Scott says “no” because the FBI is already investigating this.


32 posted on 03/22/2012 8:19:10 AM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Which black teen? There’s probably been hundreds killed in Florida this year.


35 posted on 03/22/2012 8:27:00 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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Why is the FBI investigating this????????


38 posted on 03/22/2012 8:30:35 AM PDT by rxtn41
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white Hispanic

He was a what now !? oO
43 posted on 03/22/2012 8:47:13 AM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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A special prosecutor? In addition to the FBI and local law enforcement? Why not NCIS or Army Intelligence? Perhaps the Postal Service, IRS, EPA, and some governing body of a rodeo clowns union? Is Austin Powers busy?

The ignorance these days is palpable. And 99.9% of it resides in liberal idiot heads.
45 posted on 03/22/2012 8:55:25 AM PDT by ZX12R (FUBO GTFO 2012 ! We should take off and Newt washington from orbit.)
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“a 28-year-old white Hispanic”

What exactly is a white hispanic?


49 posted on 03/22/2012 9:02:03 AM PDT by CSM
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First the victim was hispanic not white.

Second he suffered an attack from this person before or during the time he shot them, from what I had read earlier he had bleeding from the back of his head.


56 posted on 03/22/2012 10:29:09 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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But, no special prosecutor to investigate the racially motivated immolation of the 13 year old White boy in Kansas City.


75 posted on 03/22/2012 5:05:47 PM PDT by ronnyquest (I spent 20 years in the Army fighting the enemies of freedom only to see fascism elected at home.)
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There are three facts related to this case which aren't being publicized:

  1. Martin was a big husky 17 year old who played football. Why is the only picture being shown on the news of him about 5 years old and show him as an early teen or preteen?
  2. Everyone is seemingly willing to climb on the "lets lynch Zimmerman" bandwagon except the City Manager, a black gentlemen himself, and the police department most familiar with the case.
  3. There was an altercation between Zimmerman and Martin before the fatal shot was fired. Indeed, the altercation proceeded the fatal shot. The altercation was exactly why the police bought the self-defense claim from Zimmerman and didn't arrest him on the spot. Yet, of all the ink spilled on this case, there is next to nothing about the details of the altercation.

This is speculation on my part, but based on the facts above being ignored by the media frenzy, this is what I think happened:

Zimmerman was belligerent, possibly even drunk and certainly didn't talk to Martin as respectfully as the TSA talks to Muslims. He may have even said something racial like what is a guy like Martin doing walking in their gated community.

Martin was possibly even drunk as well, but not with alcohol. I'd say he was drunk with pride. Pride which wouldn't allow a racial inferior, particularly a pudgy white guy to disrespect him. He felt he had not only a right, but a duty to teach this cracker a lesson particularly when Zimmerman followed him and pushed the envelope.

What he didn't know, however, was that Zimmerman was carrying an equalizer and was unwilling to submit the beating which he so richly deserved for his disrespect. That's when the real trouble started.

My mama, like so many others, taught me that "sticks and stones may break your bones, but names will never hurt you." The gangsta culture, OTOH, teaches that a beating is a perfectly proper response to being disrespected or insulted and said beating may escalate to even lethal force if the insult or disrespect is sufficiently offensive.

76 posted on 03/23/2012 8:51:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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