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135 Years of Records Reveals Deep Ocean Warming
scientificamerican.com ^
| 1 April 2012
| David Biello
Posted on 04/01/2012 9:40:29 PM PDT by smokingfrog
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To: smokingfrog
Scientific American - a once proud publication - has come to push a political agenda. No thanks.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:01:03 PM PDT
by
onedoug
To: smokingfrog
What a stupid article...or an article for the stupid.
The 1872 measurements would only be significant if:
1. They had ocean temperature measurements from the same locations from 1737, from which they theoretically could establish a trend
2. They had ocean temperature measurements from the same locations immediately prior to and periodically after the industrial revolution and the associated increase in the use of CO2 producing hydrocarbon energy sources that came with it.
In other words, the article is complete BS.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:05:25 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
To: SaraJohnson
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:12:59 PM PDT
by
Olog-hai
To: rottndog
Actually, the title is a complete lie, because it says ‘135 Years of Records’ - but that’s not the case.
They’re only comparing a 135 year old record made by one ship to some modern day measurements.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:17:39 PM PDT
by
smokingfrog
( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
To: rottndog
The earth as been warming since the last glacial period...
Evidence of warming over the long term isn’t in dispute.
The issue is man causing it.
So far there is zero evidence man is.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:20:47 PM PDT
by
DB
To: smokingfrog
.1 degree in 135 years? Even without the "margin of error" and antiquated equipment, does anyone other than the nose-picking, hand-wringing, liberal donks really give a $h!+?
The ocean currents are in constant movement and variations that small mean nothing.
The only thing "revealed" by this hogwash is the left's desparation in trying to sell the rest of us on this global warming myth.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:26:05 PM PDT
by
FrankR
To: SatinDoll
Four months ago I read a report that deep ocean warming hadnt altered much. Scientific American has become politicized, so I no longer credit them with veracity.
So you consider an increase of 0.1 degrees to be an exaggeration?
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:27:00 PM PDT
by
Doe Eyes
To: smokingfrog
1600 AD -1850 : (LITTLE ICE AGE------ see LORD NELSON, CAPTAIN COOK) "Their studies have raised questions about modern climate change theories. A paper by Dennis Wheeler, a geographer based at Sunderland University, recounts an increasing number of summer storms over Britain in the late 17th century. Many scientists believe that storms are caused by global warming, but these [in the new study] came during the so-called Little Ice Age that affected Europe from about 1600 to 1850. The records also suggest that Europe saw a spell of rapid warming, similar to that experienced today, during the 1730s that must have been caused naturally." ------
Lord Nelson and Captain Cook's shiplogs question climate change theories, Daily Telegraph (UK) ^ | August 4, 2008 | Tom Peterkin
http:/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2496902/Lord-Nelson-and-Captain-Cooks-shiplogs-question-climate-change-theories.html Posted on Monday, August 04, 2008 6:18:54 AM by Cincinatus
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:27:31 PM PDT
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
To: smokingfrog
Yes, very lame.
Were the thermometers in use at that time even remotely that accurate? Did they have 0.1 degree C resolution? Especially one that could be lowered to 900 meters and brought back to the surface to read...
But these days anything goes in “science” that reinforces the required dogma.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:29:05 PM PDT
by
DB
To: Doe Eyes
I consider it completely meaningless.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:30:09 PM PDT
by
DB
To: FrankR
As you say, there’s a large number of variables from ocean currents to el niño/la niña that makes a 0.1 degree difference 135 years ago meaningless.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:35:10 PM PDT
by
DB
To: skinkinthegrass
yhea..they went liberal @ least 25 years ago. Longer than that
As soon as PC reared its ugly head, I canceled. that was soon after the SA introduced its long article on Cognitive Dissonance. sometime in the 60s or 70s.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:37:35 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(ItÂ’s easy to make phony promises you canÂ’t keep. - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
To: DB
That’s generally what I was alluding to.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:40:46 PM PDT
by
rottndog
(Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
To: smokingfrog
135 Years of Records Reveals Deep Ocean Warming"Ocean warming, ocean warming! ....Man-made ocean warming! We must have an ocean warming tax!"
To: Doe Eyes
So you consider an increase of 0.1 degrees to be an exaggeration? No.
More like a coincidence or random chance. Others have addressed that.
Repeatability is meaningless unless location and other parameters are tightly controlled.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:46:32 PM PDT
by
Publius6961
(ItÂ’s easy to make phony promises you canÂ’t keep. - Obama, Feb23, 2012)
To: smokingfrog
It wouldn’t shock me.
Seismic activity seems to be at a peak.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:46:43 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: foundedonpurpose
The blue ones stop you from screaming.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:49:33 PM PDT
by
mylife
(The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
To: smokingfrog
I guess we’ll just have to add the “special chemical” to the oceans now.
The one that causes water to change color when folks pee in it.
They’ll have to be identified via the coloration change and then fined substantially for “warming” Mother Gaia.
It’s the only way this “alarming trend” can be stopped.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:51:51 PM PDT
by
SZonian
(Throwing our allegiances to political party's in the long run gave away our liberty.)
To: Publius6961
proably...i first noticed SA in Sept. '77,
Microelectronics special issue..it WAS a great sci. mag.
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posted on
04/01/2012 10:52:50 PM PDT
by
skinkinthegrass
(Kill all the terrorists; protect all the borders, ridicule all the (surviving) Liberals :^)
To: Olog-hai
Thanks. I am too tired to get through that tonight but willl read it tomorrow. :)
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