Posted on 04/17/2012 12:10:49 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla
"Who did this help? Big Pig. Who did this hurt? Your grandparents."
"As someone recently said, they sure broke a lot of eggs. Where are the fucking omelettes?"
"Why do Democrats so love to kill things? After they weren't allowed to lynch black people anymore they turned to foetuses. Now a piglet slaughter redux. There's always something, or someone they want to kill."
"How many windmills does it take to incinerate a 180 pound man anyway, do you reckon?"
"I'm told the ultimate Green boondoogle, Solyndra, was originally called Soylent."
Just when you have been convinced that YOU can’t turn back the clock, the government winds up doing just that.
They can get away with it because the current crop of subjects are too busy playing to see any reason to know their own history.
After all, how can they possibly detect where they’re being led when they do not know from what monsters their ancestors escaped?
Very scary. Thanks for the alert.
Here in Texas, we have a huge problem with feral hogs, and some misguided souls intentionally spread them so that there will be more to hunt. They are breeding faster than we can shoot them, and it is now legal to shoot them from helicopters in Texas.
April 2012 Press Release: Michigan Department of Natural Resources files suit against hunting ranch
Free Republic is a sacred place. Please don't allow yourselves to be trolled.
Reminds me of NIMBYs who want to rid their rural neighborhoods of all unpleasant odors and sights for the sake of their non-existent “property values.”
Perhaps you should do more then a tiny bit.
Sorry but you are wrong. It is accurate and they are not going only after hogs at game ranches (bad enough) but also private farms that raise heritage breed hogs.
Farmers are being required to send in pictures of their hogs and the DNR is deciding one by one if they fall under this overly broad rule or not.
Here in Texas, we have a huge problem with feral hogs,
We aren't Texas. We don't have a feral hog problem. And we don't need the DNR telling us what to raise. If they were concerned with feral pigs the DNR would restrict the fatwa only to pigs out side a fenced area. They have refused to do so.
The reason for the slaughter is two fold. One is to shut down private hunting preserves. That is because the DNR makes their money from hunts on public land. The private hunting hurts their revenue stream. The second reason is that they are trying to drive the small farms out of business. Small farmers usually raise a exotic breed of pigs.
Free Republic is a sacred place. Please don't allow yourselves to be trolled.
I won't that is why I am correcting you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843yH_0RMIA
This is a video by one of the farmers who is being effected.
Thanks for providing the additional information.
Please note that Velociman note his skepticism of the story in at least 3 places. His labeling Drudge’s headline as “Hearstian” gave me that clue.
For my part, I am well aware of Texas’ feral hog problem as well as California’s. And I wouldn’t want to see one in Michigan either.
OTOH, you cannot tell me that historically speaking such rulings could not be used as an excuse to more Draconian intrusions into farms where some disgruntled employee called in a lying allegation about his former boss now can you?
And you have to admit that our Govt under FDR DID precisely the same thing to DOMESTIC hogs, right? How many know that? Percentage wise, how many Americans know that history and to the famine it led to?
I agree trolling is wrong. If the farm in question is legitimately raising feral hogs, then that is a good use of the law. I wonder how much press bad use of the law will bring if allegedly phony ones like this one garner press coverage?
We here at FR need to be skeptical about all the “news” don’t we?
Don’t get me wrong: I’m glad you alerted me to the other side of the story. But I wouldn’t call it trolling now that you have offered some balance. It is now more informative. And Velociman’s quips are still good in their own rite.
Thanks for the video by the good guys (ie., anybody not our grubermint more and more of the time).
Thanks to both for responses. Looks like there is a lot more to this story on both sides. I agree that Michigan is not Texas. I am also concerned about over-eager government intrusion into private activities on private property.
Was not accusing any one of trolling on FR, but the original story is certainly over sensationalized.
I think it is more that the hogs could be a problem. Certain breeds go feral quicker. There are feral pigs in MI.
http://www.michigan-sportsman.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=131
You can bet that the pig farmers are not just letting their pigs wander off. Even one pig is a substantial chunk of change for a small farmer.
The really ironic part is that the way they have written the rule all pigs qualify, including the ones that are not heritage breeds. They say they don't and then say all hybrids are to be wiped out and that is what all pigs are.
It is like saying that this order will not apply to humans but hominids of all types are to be wiped out.
Agenda 21 in action. It is about taking their land - in the end. First they begin with harassment.
And people who prefer to get their food locally from farmers will be affected as well as the general public.
State of Florida Rewrites History and Takes Land from Farmer
City of Roswell, GA, bullies Andrew Wordes to death over his backyard chickens
http://www.naturalnews.com/035524_Andrew_Wordes_Roswell_chickens.html#ixzz1rkeIOjId
There are a few out there but not in any great number. Possibly the condom using cougars are keeping their numbers down.
Any hog that gets out is going to go feral pretty quick. It is their nature. They are a bit like cats in that respect.
Which is why the rule makes no sense. A lightly haired hog out side the fence is going to produce far more damage then any of the hogs named will do when they are kept fenced.
The logical thing if they were worried about feral hogs is to make the rule read that any hog running loose is fair game. Any fenced hog is not. See how easy that was?
When they refuse to do that it is obvious that they are up to something other then their stated intention.
The DNR is Michigan has been acting strangely for the past decade or so. A few years back the DNR was forced to admit that there were indeed cougars in lower Michigan. It is kind of hard to argue with a body and a expert testimony that the horse was killed by one. They immediately declared the cougar was endangered and must be left alone and they weren't breeding.
Really? What are they doing? Using birth control?
pinged to this comment.
Thanks for finding that video - I live in Michigan and will make sure all my friends and family get the link.
You are so right about Agenda 21 involvement. RINO Snyder needs to be called to account.
Not to pile on - here’s one of the pig farmers testifying before the Michigan Senate Agriculture committee. You are giving the DRN way too much credit. This is long but worth the watch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=ZLJs57vbfg4&feature=endscreen
feral - previously domesticated animal either abandoned or escaped from captivity that resorts to the wild to survive.
By definition a pig behind the farmer’s fence that is fed and cared for cannot be arbitrarily declared “feral” no matter what the breed. The DNR’s definition of unapproved pigs pretty much describes all pigs but the pink factory pigs.
Disagree totally that this story was “over sensationalized” - it hit a very visceral cord in me.
>> “ but I can’t vouch for NaturalNews.” <<
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Mike is a straight up guy. Some of the things he digs up seem obscure at first, but in the long run they always seem to turn out to be accurate.
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