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1 posted on 04/18/2012 5:46:57 AM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki
....M230 30mm chain gun...

30MM chain gun.... mmmmm.

2 posted on 04/18/2012 6:02:54 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
60-inch barrel for increased accuracy

This is probably not for accuracy but range. The M230 is so accurate it violates GEneva Convention as it can sniper hit a single solidier using a high caliber round. As a result it is operated with an electronicaly generated vibration for "fuzzy" area targeting. When that piece of electronic fails, it has to be changed because the machine is too accurate.

Yes, Political COrrectness is what increases war and military budgets.

3 posted on 04/18/2012 6:05:17 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

That would be great if it’s linked to a helmet so when the gunner looked at at a target, it was immediately targeted and lit up.


6 posted on 04/18/2012 6:12:22 AM PDT by meatloaf (Support House Bill 1380 to eliminate oil slavery.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
I was under the impression the chain in chain gun referred to the link-less system..so mod to linked ammo makes it no longer a chain gun.....or it chain reference to gun gas vs electric drive?
11 posted on 04/18/2012 7:22:20 AM PDT by tophat9000 (American is Barack Oaken)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

What???

HELO guns?? as in helicopter?

nevermind

13 posted on 04/18/2012 8:18:37 AM PDT by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’d be nice if they would use the gun on the Somali Muzzies who are out on the high seas playing pirate.


16 posted on 04/18/2012 8:43:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
but the Navy’s strict safety guidelines make the M230’s electrically-primed firing system unsafe for use aboard surface vessels.

Something fishy here. Unless they use a different ammo variant than the aircraft M-61, the CIWS uses electrically fired ammo. Kind of doubt that, as I recall the percussion primers were too slow for the rate of fire.

18 posted on 04/18/2012 1:06:50 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: sukhoi-30mki
The Navy is already using the Bushmaster II 30mm Chain Gun as the Mk 44. This gun fires the same round as the A-10 Warthog — 30x173mm NATO. The Mk 44 guns are installed in the Mk 46 Mod 1 turrets that are found on LCS-1 and LCS-2, plus the LPD-17 class amphibs.

The M230LF is designed for less recoil than the Mk 44 gun so it could be installed in places where .50 caliber Brownings are used. I don't think this will work and the .50 is the better gun. They'd be better off using the 25mm Mk 38 Mod 2 remote controlled, E/O targeting setup already being procured.

19 posted on 04/19/2012 12:19:57 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (11)
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