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Activist Chen Guangcheng: Let Me Leave China on Hillary Clinton’s Plane
The Daily Beast ^ | May 2, 2012 | Melinda Liu

Posted on 05/03/2012 5:26:25 AM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: Hojczyk

For Hillary! Chen has become an inconvenient activist. He is putting the ‘Humanitarian’ Democrats in a precarious position in an election year. WE know they are all phonies and liars but most of the rest of the world only gets Big Media’s spin of the oh-so-wonderful, compassionate, and selfless Liberals. So sorry for Chen. He trusted the wrong people.


21 posted on 05/03/2012 8:28:27 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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Hillary and her “smart” friends would not mind China’s one child policy being imposed on the whole world. This poor guy mistook America’s pro life part as the whole.

George Bush would have shipped him out to the US because pro lifers would have been all over it. They are shut out of the Obama’s death culture rule. In fact, prolifers are under attack, having been named domestic terrorists by Obama and falsely prosecuted by Holder for protesting the killing of babies.


22 posted on 05/03/2012 8:49:57 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: HOYA97

He is a person caught up in what can be described as China’s “federalism” problem. China’s central government, its laws and policies are actually pretty popular among the citizens, but these laws and policies are ignored by the regional and local authorities, and this is where the problems lie.

Of the tens of thousands of protests that happen in China every year now, almost all of them, oddly enough, are against the regional and local authorities for *not* obeying the national law. Yet the response by the central government is not against the regional or local authorities to force conformity, but against those that protest.

Chen Guangcheng is being persecuted by local and regional authorities for demanding that they obey Chinese law. As such, this presents a problem for other nations, that can only act with national governments, not regional or local ones.

What he is demanding, an end to forced sterilizations and abortions, is actually already in Chinese law.

Comparatively in the US, Orly Taitz is demanding that Obama present proof of the citizenship requirements for the office of the presidency. It says he is supposed to in the constitution, but the federal government is not enforcing that requirement. And state governments, as well, are telling Taitz to go bugger off.

So in that case, would it be okay for the government of China to demand that the US government force the states to do what Taitz wants?


23 posted on 05/03/2012 9:23:18 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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That’s not my question. What would you do in his situation? Would you just shrug your shoulders and say, oh well. At least he tried to do something to bring attention to these issues. I suspect he and his family will pay a heavy price for what he did. We need to applaud and support them in whatever way we can so that others can stand and do the same.


24 posted on 05/03/2012 9:46:29 AM PDT by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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On the advice of an old China hand, who assured me that the worst way to do anything in China is the western way, gives an indirect answer to your question.

There is a “Chinese way” of doing things, which is so ingrained in their culture that to get anything done, much less done well, it has to be done their way and their tempo.

Westerners have a bull-in-the-china-shop attitude about change and getting things done, that is very particular to us. It is also attractive to many others because of its bluntness and simplicity. All the complexity and flow of doing things in other ways is mostly lost on us.

I will confess that I, too, both prefer the western way and do not grasp much of the Chinese way, but can guarantee that as Chen Guangcheng did things, it was almost assured that he would not find success, unless his intent was to appeal to westerners.

I know this sounds odd. There is an anecdote that is instructive, about an American tourist who was run into by an unwary Chinese bicyclist. A traffic cop was there, and wrote a ticket to the bicyclist, but then wrote a second ticket to the American. What for? “Had you not chosen to vacation in China, this accident would not have taken place, so you are also at fault.”

It makes sense in China.


25 posted on 05/03/2012 11:02:52 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Hojczyk

Are there any updates to this dilemma?

This is the only article I have seen on the subject. The search button does not work well for me.

Greta is on now and just before the break I think that she mentioned this.


26 posted on 05/03/2012 7:20:04 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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now by having the whole world focused on this false step struggle for freedom, my take on this is that Chen and his family will fly back to the US with Hillary. Obama will greet them as they arrive, and declare what a brilliant diplomat he is to have arranged Chen’s visit to the States to study. the media will go rapturous over BO’s “triumph of diplomacy,” without realizing what BO has given up [by the most transparent administration ever]to arrange this feat. Biden will eventually step down; so that Hillary can become BO’s VP to secure the women’s vote in his re-election bid.


27 posted on 05/04/2012 4:38:52 PM PDT by IWONDR
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That scenario is a nightmare. What is worse I could see it happening.
28 posted on 05/04/2012 7:04:27 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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