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1 posted on 05/21/2012 11:24:34 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I love Rush but on this particular subject he is woefully ignorant. If folks were aware of what happens with genetically modified foods and antibiotic laden rgbh meat and dairy, they would likely stop eating all together.


2 posted on 05/21/2012 11:46:28 AM PDT by acapesket
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Quality of meat is improved by not being raised on feed lots; organically raised food is the best quality.

I’m conservative, but I’m not going to protect big agribusiness. Quite simply, what they call food is cr@p.

Big corporate farms want us to eat whatever garbage they produce.

Why bother grazing beef when you can have it live on feed lots ? Just pump it full of antibiotics so it doesn’t die in that environment, oh, and to get more volume, pump it full of all sorts of other “stuff” to get it bigger faster. Hey, some dude was growing beef-like stuff in a lab. Why not do that ? We can wander around the lab at night, sampling things for snacks. Hey, if we get sick we have ZeroCare !

That is why chef-owned restaurants who serve quality food - look for quality ingredients.

There are reasons why their cooking is better than most people can cook themselves: they start with better ingredients to begin with.

Are their newbie organic people who think that meat is bad for you, they eat bean sprouts and tofu, etc. - yes. There are many nutcases out there. I don’t particularly care about their wackiness, I am happy that there is organic food out there - I see it sometimes now in normal stores because of competition.

What I can’t stand is the increase in food prices overall in the past few years.

Decent beef selling at $20 a pound. Cr@p beef in the supermarket that used to be $4.99 not long ago now selling at $7.99. That’s a 60% increase !!!!

This is due to agribusiness and it’s lobby: let’s export all we can to other countries - and by the way, if foreign buyers demand causes the price to go up - GREAT, we make more profit. Thanks, agribusiness, for helping to destroy America, by increasing retail food prices 10% to 60% in just a few years. Jerks.

When will the stinking rotting so-called elites of America stop being jerks ? They would still make money and everything would be great, if they’d just understand business for real and make a few changes accordingly.

1.) Import raw materials.

2.) Export manufactured goods.

Is that so difficult to understand ?

No, it’s easy. But the elites don’t care about America - they want to do the opposite of that - so third world and communist countries can do those two things and gain wealth.

If you like to spread communism and tyranny, just keep buying from big business and voting for the same Congressmen over and over.


3 posted on 05/21/2012 11:50:33 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: Kaslin

A disappointment (for me) Rush is out tomorrow and Mark Davis is his sub again. I cannot stand Marks verbal diarrhea while saying nothing so I will save my ears. :-(


4 posted on 05/21/2012 11:52:33 AM PDT by jesseam
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To: Kaslin
Rush may be right 99.7% of the time but today is part of the 0.3%. I certainly don't want Moochelle or any other part of the US gov't telling me what to eat!

Search "John Mackey" CEO of Whole Foods, and read his WSJ Editorial. Most organic food enthusiasts and vegetarians I know are conservatives or libertarians, but then again I don't know too many liberals. (Mackey is a libertarian vegetarian, which has a nice ring to it!)

6 posted on 05/21/2012 11:52:39 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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'It is a marketing trick. It is a ruse. Free range chicken. What's the difference in a chicken that's raised inside a pen and one that's running around in the backyard? Nothing. Nothing. They pump steroids into the chickens everywhere. Free range. There's no such thing as free range anyway.'

Wow.

8 posted on 05/21/2012 11:55:31 AM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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Rush, you need to read more about the subject. Find out about Joel Salatin and the others who are a part of the local food movement and biological farming. You are painting with too broad a brush. The “organic food movement” is a hugely diverse group of people and they do not fit under one political label.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eja5HNAKg7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eja5HNAKg7Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAHGbbjenhI&feature=related


10 posted on 05/21/2012 11:58:01 AM PDT by Madam Theophilus
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To: Kaslin

Rush is way off base on this one. As others have said, eating organic food (not GMO or pesticide treated) is really just common sense. The fewer chemicals in anything we consume is better for us. Even better is locally grown organic, which typically is less expensive and more fresh because there is less overhead.

We frequent our local farmers markets in the summer time and the meat and vegetables are NOTICEABLY more fresh and tasty. Are they more expensive than non-organic? In most cases, yes. In many cases you can get local labeled as “natural” and confirm with the grower/farmer themselves that they use organic practices but refuse to pay “the man” the extra to $$ to stamp it “organic”.

On another note, The owner of Whole Foods Market who carry a HUGE amount of organic products is a conservative (politically), much to the chagrin to liberals. They hate the guy but HAVE to shop in his stores.


12 posted on 05/21/2012 12:09:19 PM PDT by bridgemanusa (loan MA Conservative)
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A couple of things here:

The movie night- it’s been growing in popularity to have outdoor movie nights that are really picnics with a movie. Also if it’s a group of girls at someone’s home, there will be a variety of food (I speak from experience) and a fruit tray is a perfectly acceptable dish to bring.

Chickens aren’t given steroids. The hatch to processing time is fast enough that it isn’t cost effective. The real trick with chickens is understanding the breeds. Standard store bought chickens are bread to have a lot of breast meat, almost too much to really cook it properly.

I am a heavy supporter of the local farmer’s market scene. The organic farmers seem to have smaller batches and a larger variety of items. I have picked up more interesting stuff and eat a wider variety of plant based food because of this. I’ve never been treated rudely or thought of any of the farmers as jerks. Most of them honestly want to know what you think of their produce, especially if you tried something new.


13 posted on 05/21/2012 12:16:08 PM PDT by PrincessB (Drill Baby Drill.)
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Well, who knew social conservatives were actually liberals? I mean, we don’t want gay marriage and abortions, and we don’t want other people to have them either.


17 posted on 05/21/2012 1:12:01 PM PDT by heartwood
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Shakespeare commented on this same trend: “Because you are a Puritan, shall there be no cakes and ale?”


18 posted on 05/21/2012 1:12:36 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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On another thread about the article to which Rush is referring, lots of FReepers were bashing any of us who choose organic foods. I do not use any pesticides around my lawn and garden and have zero pest problems. Zero. I buy organic milk, produce and meats to do without hormones, pesticides, etc. And I am a Conservative. Rush is wrong.


19 posted on 05/21/2012 2:11:51 PM PDT by manic4organic (We won. Get over it.)
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To: Kaslin
Rush has clearly never read Russell Kirk opr any Southern Agrarians.

20 posted on 05/21/2012 2:34:36 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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“when people can pat themselves on the back for their moral behavior, they can become self-righteous,’”

Most Prius drivers and higher income suburban Obama voters.

23 posted on 05/21/2012 2:52:15 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (We are the 53%. 47% of Americans pay no taxes; end the free ride...)
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I hated disagreeing with Rush today but his truth-o-meter needs adjusting. He is dead wrong on this one. Even crazy ass Topanga Canyon liberal hippies, like a broken c,lock, can still be correct a couple times a day.

Rush, which is truly a more conservative food choice?

A) A steak from a feedlot cow who lived a miserable short life in a wallow of feces, stuffed with antibiotics and gmo grains and fed hormones and drugs to get it to grow bigger faster, who has no omega 3 fats in it thus promoting illness

Or

B) a steak from a grassfed cow whose food was whatever natural grasses it found while grazing in the sunshine, fairly happy until that one bad day, giving the cow a healthy ratio of omega 3 fats to omega 6's, making that steak almost as healthy as salmon to whomever eats it? Rather than being marinated in hormones, drugs, and antibiotics, its flavor is beefy, fresh, and clean like the steaks Granddaddy used to eat?

Organic in terms of produce means less likely to include toxic pesticides that CAUSE Alzheimer's and gehrig's and Parkinson's. I'd rather pay extra for them than have my kids deal with the burdens of my late life neurodegenerative disease, if possible. I think that is a conservative value, putting my children's future ahead of my desire to save cash today.

I am pleased that so many conservatives care about health. That paleo caller you had was right on. By eating good, plain, conservative, old timey food, he cured himself of diabetes. There are a million stories like his out there. People are becoming healthy by returning to the foods of old. There is nothing conservative about blindly eating today's packaged frankenfood! It's as conservative as voting for the clean, articulate, unvetted candidate because he happens to be black.

33 posted on 05/21/2012 10:25:23 PM PDT by Yaelle
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