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Imprisoned ex-congressman Cunningham wants gun rights restored upon release
foxnews.com ^ | 5/27/12 | AP

Posted on 05/27/2012 1:11:49 PM PDT by ColdOne

The now-70-year-old Cunningham wrote that he plans to live with his brother and mother in rural Arkansas after his prison release. He said he wants to restore his gun rights so he can hunt and compete in sport shooting contests.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cultureofcorruption; cunningham; dukecunningham; randycunningham
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1 posted on 05/27/2012 1:12:00 PM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

“Cunningham pleaded guilty in 2005 to taking $2.4 million in bribes from defense contractors in exchange for using his House appropriations position to steer government contracts to them.”

Cunningham steals 2.4 million dollars from the American tax payer and only serves seven years in prison?

Wow, that’s $342,857.00 per year!

Not too shabby for sitting is a posh federal prison for a few years.


2 posted on 05/27/2012 1:17:55 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: ColdOne

I agree. All people who aren’t in prison should have their rights restored.


3 posted on 05/27/2012 1:19:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: ColdOne
It has always seemed obvious to me, that once a person has done their time, their rights should be restored -- gun ownership and use, voting, all the rest.

Otherwise it's a continuation of the punishment, which is not proper. If we think the punishment should continue, then make it part of the sentence.

I think the Founders would be quite clear on this. The Second Amendment is unequivocal, and in the absence of a continuing legal sentence, a citizen who as done their time should be restored to full rights of citizenship.

4 posted on 05/27/2012 1:20:08 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: ColdOne

The judge is either a liar or ignorant.

Neither makes him look good.

This guy was not a violent felon, he’s a paper abusing felon, similar to the guy who writes bad cheques.
No rational reason beyond vindictive spite to not allow him arms in his old age.
He’s supposed to have “paid his debt” and be “rehabilitated” now.

I suppose that once EVERYONE has been found guilty of some felony the second amendment will be moot, once playground antics are felonies no one will escape losing their rights.
No more voting either, Komrad!


5 posted on 05/27/2012 1:23:23 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: ColdOne

I hope Cunningham rots, but I wonder if convicted felons can legally bow hunt?


6 posted on 05/27/2012 1:26:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: cripplecreek
> All people who aren’t in prison should have their rights restored.

In general I agree.

There may be reasonable exceptions, for example if a particular right (e.g. gun use) was central to the committed crime, I can imagine an argument for saying, "You grossly abused your gun rights in the commission of your felony, so we're not giving you that right back. But all your other rights return to you."

This Congresscritter didn't use a gun as part of taking bribes (as far as I can tell) so his gun rights should be restored.

We might consider prohibiting him from taking any job with responsibility for the public money, though. :)

7 posted on 05/27/2012 1:27:16 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: cripplecreek
I also agree, unless the crime is really heinous.

They use the dangle of taking away gun/voting/driving rights as a threat to keep the little people in line. And after tim eis served, why must your rights still be suspended?

Whats more, its suprising how many things are felonies. Something really minor could land in deep trouble for the rest of your life.

8 posted on 05/27/2012 1:28:20 PM PDT by Copenhagen Smile
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To: dayglored

I personally don’t see the point of sending people convicted of financial crimes to prison anyway. I’d rather put them on a very short leash and make them repay what they took.

After all, putting them in prison just ends up costing the taxpayers.


9 posted on 05/27/2012 1:28:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Loyal Sedition

“This guy was not a violent felon, he’s a paper abusing felon, similar to the guy who writes bad cheques.”

This guy stole 2.4 million dollars and is an American Tax Payer Abusing Felon and the money he stole belonged to us.

Not at all like writing bad checks.


10 posted on 05/27/2012 1:28:31 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: cripplecreek

I’m just kinda curious, where exactly did this rule on denial of gun rights come from, and how does it avoid conflicting with the Constitution?


11 posted on 05/27/2012 1:30:17 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Loyal Sedition; dayglored

The way this usually works is that at some point before the full sentence is served, a felon is offered a parole deal which includes limits to his rights. Voting rights and second amendment rights are typically bargained away for early release. I have no idea why they pick on these rights but the deal is usually taken.


12 posted on 05/27/2012 1:30:46 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (I like Obamacare because Granny signed the will and I need the cash)
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To: ColdOne

It’s so sad to see how far Duke Cunningham fell. He was once a person to look up to...I guess you just never know!!


13 posted on 05/27/2012 1:32:11 PM PDT by Cricket24 (Telling the truth is not attacking someone!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

“This guy stole 2.4 million dollars and is an American Tax Payer Abusing Felon and the money he stole belonged to us”

This is chump change compared to what Obama is funneling to his friends. We are talking billions through so-called green energy firms and other assorted schemes.


14 posted on 05/27/2012 1:32:11 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Loyal Sedition
> ...once EVERYONE has been found guilty of some felony the second amendment will be moot, once playground antics are felonies no one will escape losing their rights.

That is EXACTLY the danger!

  1. First, legislate so that conviction of a crime removes your rights for life.

  2. Second, legislate so that every action this side of breathing is illegal.

  3. Third, apply the laws selectively to your political, social, and personal enemies.

  4. Fourth, Totalitarian Paridise!!

Anyone who says "It can't happen here" is a damn fool.
15 posted on 05/27/2012 1:33:37 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Uncle Slayton

He got caught unlike the rest of the crooks in congress.


16 posted on 05/27/2012 1:34:27 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: cripplecreek

Very good point about financial criminals.


17 posted on 05/27/2012 1:35:42 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: pepsionice
I’m just kinda curious, where exactly did this rule on denial of gun rights come from, and how does it avoid conflicting with the Constitution?

I'm not sure but I've been doing some digging. It doesn't appear to have been the case prior to the 1880s. A while back I stumbled across some old prison records that listed items returned to inmates upon release. They included weapons.
18 posted on 05/27/2012 1:36:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Parley Baer

“This is chump change compared to what Obama is funneling to his friends. We are talking billions through so-called green energy firms and other assorted schemes.”

Yes, but that does not chance the fact that Cunningham is a political thug that ripped off the American tax payer for 2.4 million and should rot in prison.

What do you think would happen to you if you were caught embezzling 2.4 million from your employer?


19 posted on 05/27/2012 1:37:35 PM PDT by Uncle Slayton
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To: Uncle Slayton

Does he still have the money, or did the Fed. take it as I expect?


20 posted on 05/27/2012 1:38:24 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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