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ATF leader’s email could be Fast and Furious smoking gun and Holder admitted Obama can’t shield it
The Daily Caller ^ | 25 June, 2012 | Matthew Boyle

Posted on 06/27/2012 4:43:17 AM PDT by marktwain

A single internal Department of Justice email could be the smoking-gun document in the Operation Fast and Furious scandal — if it turns out to contain what congressional investigators have said it does.

The document would establish that wiretap application documents show senior DOJ officials knew about and approved the gunwalking tactic in Fast and Furious. This is the opposite of what Attorney General Eric Holder and House oversight committee ranking Democratic member Rep. Elijah Cummings have claimed.

It appears that email would also prove senior DOJ officials, likely including Holder himself, knew in March 2011 that a Feb. 4, 2011 letter from the DOJ to Iowa Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley falsely denied guns were permitted to “walk” into Mexico. The DOJ allowed that false letter to stand for nine more months, only withdrawing it in December 2011.

During the June 24 broadcast of Fox News Sunday, House oversight committee chairman Rep. Darrell Issa cited the email as a “good example” of a specific document his committee knows Holder is hiding from Congress.

“The ATF director, Kenneth Melson, sent an e-mail. And he had said to us in sworn testimony that, in fact, he had concerns,” Issa said. “And we want to see that e-mail because that’s an example where he was saying, if we believe his sworn testimony, that guns walked. And he said it shortly after February 4, and [on] July 4. When he told us that, we began asking for that document.”

But the details of it surfaced first when Grassley mentioned it for the first time publicly during a June 12 Senate Judiciary Committee hearing where Holder was testifying.

“He [Melson] immediately sent an email warning others, ‘back off the letter to Sen. Grassley in light of the information in the affidavits,’” Grassley explained.

Ken Melson, now the former acting director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, purportedly sent that email to several DOJ leaders in March 2011. According to Grassley, Melson wrote that he had reviewed the wiretap applications — the same documents Cummings and Holder claim do not show senior DOJ officials knew of or approved gunwalking tactics in Fast and Furious.

“ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson described reading those same wiretap affidavits in March of last year,” Grassley told Holder during the Senate hearing. “He said he was alarmed that the information in the affidavits contradicted the public denial to Congress.”

It appears Republican congressional investigators first learned of the Melson email’s existence on July 4, 2011, when Melson chose to give a lengthy deposition on Fast and Furious without DOJ and ATF lawyers present. Grassley told Holder during the Senate hearing that congressional investigators first requested that the DOJ provide Congress with that email during July 2011, shortly after Melson made his then-secret trip across town to Capitol Hill.

The wiretap documents themselves are under federal court seal, leaving Grassley and Issa to tussle with Holder and Cumming about what they might show. Issa has said a whistleblower provided copies to his committee.

Holder has declined to ask the federal judge who sealed them to unseal them. The March 2011 Melson email, then, may be the only legal way — without violating a court order — to document the agreement of some senior Obama administration members with Issa’s and Grassley’s characterizations of the documents.

Melson’s email could also prove that although senior DOJ officials knew in March 2011 that the Feb. 4, 2011 letter was false, they chose to continue misleading Congress with gunwalking denials for several months.

“We need to see it [the email] to corroborate his testimony,” Grassley said during the June 12 hearing. “But the Department is withholding that email along with every other document after Feb. 4, 2011.”

Grassley pressed Holder on the question of how DOJ had the authority to withhold Melson’s email from Congress, a full week before President Obama indicated that he would invoke executive privilege to shield requested documents. At that time, Holder claimed the Melson email would not be protected by executive privilege.

“On what legal ground are you withholding that email?” He asked. “The president can’t claim executive privilege to withhold that email, is that correct?”

“Well, let me just say this: We have reached out to Chairman Issa to work our way through these issues,” Holder filibustered. “We have had sporadic contacts and we are prepared to make – I am prepared to make – compromises with regard to the documents that can be made available. There is a basis for withholding these documents if they deal with the deliberative …”

“But not on executive privilege?” Grassley interrupted.

“No,” Holder responded.

Holder spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler wouldn’t answer when The Daily Caller asked her if the DOJ was planning to provide the Melson email to Congress.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; ffsmokinggun; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; kenmelson; kennethmelson; melson; murdergate; obama
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How much more information does Issa have that the Obama administration does not know about? None of this would have been know but for the new media. Holder is used to being shielded by the MSM.

It appears, from Waco onward, he has been used to being able to get away with political murder for decades, because the MSM would always have his back.

1 posted on 06/27/2012 4:43:29 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: MestaMachine

Gunwalker / Murdergate ping.


2 posted on 06/27/2012 4:44:54 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Pardon my ignorance, what did Holder have to do with Waco?


3 posted on 06/27/2012 5:03:01 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics-We don't need your stinking tar sands oil, we'll just grow algae.)
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower; Travis McGee; LucyT; vette6387; MetaThought; 60Gunner; XHogPilot; ...

4 posted on 06/27/2012 5:06:47 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: marktwain
None of this would have been know but for the new media.

CORRECT.

MSM = Partner's in CRIME

5 posted on 06/27/2012 5:10:29 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Pardon my ignorance, what did Holder have to do with Waco?

He was Deputy Attorney General under Janet Reno

Add Elian González

Pardon for Marc Rich convicted for tax evasion ( Seems Democrats want higher taxes except they don't pay themselves) and trading with the enemy selling Iran Oil

FALN Commutation of 1999 Terrorist

6 posted on 06/27/2012 5:12:13 AM PDT by scooby321 (h tones)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

http://bluegrassbulletin.typepad.com/bluegrass_bulletin/2008/11/guns-bullets-sniper-fire-corruption-murder-obamas-attorney-general-eric-holder.html


7 posted on 06/27/2012 5:13:30 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Former Proud Canadian

How about OK City bombing, too...Documents obtained by Salt Lake City attorney Jesse Trentadue in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show then Clinton Deputy Attorney General Eric Holder authorized members of the FBI to provide explosives to Oklahoma City bombing criminals Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols immediately prior to the April, 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

Holder had authorized the FBI to provide the explosives to McVeigh and Nichols in conjunction with a Clinton Administration undercover operation named PATCON, an acronym for “Patriot Conspiracy.” As Jesse Trentadue describes it, “PATCON was designed to infiltrate and incite… militia[s] and evangelical Christians to violence so that the Department of Justice could crush them.” (1)


8 posted on 06/27/2012 5:14:35 AM PDT by Safetgiver
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To: marktwain

It occurs to me that the March 24th 2009 news brief with Janet Napolatano and Deputy A/G David Ogden bragging about the new gun running program that also had the POTUS’s approval is also a SMOKING GUN .


9 posted on 06/27/2012 5:30:19 AM PDT by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism is the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; All

Eric Holder was deputy AG to Janet Reno. He joined the department after Waco, so the link may be somewhat tenuous. Still, he clearly was closely aligned with Reno and no doubt absorbed one of the major lessons of Waco: even with mass murder on videotape, the MSM will back your story if you are a Democrat.


10 posted on 06/27/2012 5:40:30 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: Safetgiver

One, then, has to wonder - although one suspects the answer - how in the world a bunch of Republicans voted to uphold Holder’s nomination. Mere Ignorance or timidness seems unlikely to account for all those votes.


11 posted on 06/27/2012 5:50:07 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: Safetgiver

Just this morning I was reading an article on Bill Ayers and found it very interesting that the Weather Underground got off the hook for their bombings as they claimed the FBI provided the materials.


12 posted on 06/27/2012 5:52:54 AM PDT by tired&retired
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To: marktwain

I am using this thread/post to announce my new tagline.


13 posted on 06/27/2012 5:54:27 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: marktwain

These guys... they get into government and just hang around for years and years, decades even.

Professional incompetents.

Anyone else as fed up as me?


14 posted on 06/27/2012 5:56:57 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Lionheartusa1
It occurs to me that the March 24th 2009 news brief with Janet Napolatano and Deputy A/G David Ogden

I remember that date well.
Steve McQueen's birthday.
And mine.
Kinda nice to share a birthday with, "Mr. Cool."
15 posted on 06/27/2012 5:58:14 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Obama hates Mexicans (Fast and Furious))
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To: marktwain

ANYONE who has lied about facts in the Investigation should be tried for Perjury (and, if in Public Office, Impeached and Tried).


16 posted on 06/27/2012 6:01:33 AM PDT by traditional1 (Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: tired&retired

the Weather Underground got off the hook for their bombings as they claimed the FBI provided the materials.....No such luck for ol’ McVeigh. That had to be the fastest execution on record. All so he would not be able to say what he knew.


17 posted on 06/27/2012 6:05:43 AM PDT by Safetgiver
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To: marktwain

What is there to prevent Holder and the DOJ from destroying all evidence that they are refusing to turn over? What would the consequences be??


18 posted on 06/27/2012 6:07:17 AM PDT by KMG365
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To: dagogo redux
...how in the world a bunch of Republicans voted to uphold Holder’s nomination....

The fear of appearing obstructionist was likely the reason, IMO.

19 posted on 06/27/2012 6:12:08 AM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop the destruction in 2012 or continue the decline)
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To: KMG365
What is there to prevent Holder and the DOJ from destroying all evidence


To many finger holes in the pie to cover it up with ice cream.
They could however take a page from Hillary and lose them for a few years,
on her desk.

20 posted on 06/27/2012 6:13:00 AM PDT by MaxMax
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