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To: raptor22

he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. Good luck with that.


4 posted on 07/09/2012 6:08:57 PM PDT by RC one (this space intentionally left blank)
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To: RC one

The Supreme Court, however, is fine with it.


5 posted on 07/09/2012 6:11:05 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: RC one
He can sign the Treaty, but then must submit it to the Senate to ratify.

The fun starts when he tries to enforce it without ratification.

19 posted on 07/09/2012 6:23:00 PM PDT by AU72
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To: RC one
he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. Good luck with that.

Not quite. With treaties the President acts first, then the Senate. He could sign it as soon as the final form is available. Probably will. Presidents have been known to enforce treaties while they are still un-ratified, as long as the Senate hasn't actually voted them down.

43 posted on 07/09/2012 7:15:35 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: RC one

“he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. Good luck with that.”

Legally, 51 Senators present form a quorum and only 2/3 of those need to approve. That’s 34 Senators. He’s got that many. All he has to do is figure out how to ensure not enough that oppose it are present.


46 posted on 07/09/2012 7:30:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (uired to vote for a treaty.)
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To: RC one
he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. You might want to read this reply of mine.
This is the relevant section... The PRESIDING OFFICER. A division has been requested.
Senators in favor of the ratification of this treaty, please raise their hand. (After a pause.) Those opposed will raise their hands.
With two-thirds of the Senators present having voted in the affirmative, the resolution of ratification is agreed to.
Mr. THOMAS. I thank the Presiding Officer, the Senator from West Virginia, and the clerk.
By the way, just for information, these treaties were all approved by the Foreign Relations Committee on October 4 and 5.

A show of hands without a quorum call and with no recorded vote. Those present voted, not the whole Senate.

60 posted on 07/09/2012 8:44:03 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: RC one

Obummer don’t need no stinkin’ Senate to tell him what he can do!!!


72 posted on 07/09/2012 10:36:16 PM PDT by RightLady (Take out the trash the first Tues after the first Monday in Nov)
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To: RC one
he can’t sign it unless the senate ratifies it with a 2/3rd majority vote. Good luck with that.

Article 2, Section 2,

He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur;

http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A2Sec2.html

Look for a midnight/holiday vote...

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93 posted on 07/10/2012 11:00:43 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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