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Drone strikes threaten 50 years of international law,says UN [ It's not the movie-its the kill list]
guardian.co.uk ^ | Thursday 21 June 2012

Posted on 09/14/2012 1:04:28 PM PDT by NoLibZone

The US policy of using aerial drones to carry out targeted killings presents a major challenge to the system of international law that has endured since the second world war, a United Nations investigator has said.

Christof Heyns, the UN special rapporteur on extrajudicial killings, summary or arbitrary executions, told a conference in Geneva that President Obama's attacks in Pakistan, Yemen and elsewhere, carried out by the CIA, would encourage other states to flout long-established human rights standards.

In his strongest critique so far of drone strikes, Heyns suggested some may even constitute "war crimes". His comments come amid rising international unease over the surge in killings by remotely piloted unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs).

Addressing the conference, which was organised by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), a second UN rapporteur, Ben Emmerson QC, who monitors counter-terrorism, announced he would be prioritising inquiries into drone strikes.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 91112; aclu; droneattacks; egyptembassy; killlist; libyaembassy; un; wagthedog2012

1 posted on 09/14/2012 1:04:36 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Date of article should read :

Thursday 21 June 2012


2 posted on 09/14/2012 1:05:58 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Every conservative knew the attacks were coming... 3.5 years ago when Obama was elected.)
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To: NoLibZone

Bush rounded them up and gave them trials.

Obama just assassinates.


3 posted on 09/14/2012 1:07:07 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Every conservative knew the attacks were coming... 3.5 years ago when Obama was elected.)
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To: NoLibZone

Yeah well I hope Romney continues to snuff these guys. Sooner or later we might have to start killing the “Holy Men” who encourage the terrorists. Sorry.


4 posted on 09/14/2012 1:11:08 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: bkepley

While most here would agree with you about the targets; it comes down to where these targets are. Apparently, some nations don’t like uninvited drone attacks, within their borders. Go figure.


5 posted on 09/14/2012 1:22:15 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: NoLibZone

“Obama just assassinates.”

Following in JFK’s footsteps.


6 posted on 09/14/2012 1:22:49 PM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: SMARTY

Let’s see if I have this right. Obama gets the Nobel Peace Prize and then gets indicted for war crimes by someone?


7 posted on 09/14/2012 1:24:16 PM PDT by sitkaspruce
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA
some nations don’t like uninvited drone attacks, within their borders. Go figure.

Those who do like the drone attacks or the results thereof will do the dirty work themselves of are happy to let us do the dirty work. Those who don't like the drone attacks can take it as a warning that we know exactly what you are about and you might be next.

8 posted on 09/14/2012 1:28:03 PM PDT by bkepley
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To: NoLibZone

Not to worry. Anything the UN saya about anything is irrelevant.


9 posted on 09/14/2012 1:29:10 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (The First Amendment is a large caliber weapon. USE IT !!!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Under the past customs and laws of war under international law, allowing bandits and pirates to use your sovereign territory as a base from which to sally forth, commit acts of war and banditry, and a refuge for retreat after the raid was sufficient reason to declare a war of self-defense, invade, conquer, and annex the territory of the former sovereign nation. Perhaps the complaining members of the United Nations would prefer to restore thosee past customs, or perhaps they could muster the will to eliminate the bandits and pirates operating with the consent of the sovereign from the sovereign’s own territory? Nah, No, they would rather play a double standard and attempt to disarm the victim of theeir aggressions.


10 posted on 09/14/2012 1:31:24 PM PDT by WhiskeyX
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To: NoLibZone

Not only just the kill list, but the #1 guy on the kill list - Osama bin Ladin, of whom the Current Regime keeps trumpeting “We got him!”

Now if ever there was a reminder of a setback the Islamic jihadists suffered, it was the death of bin Ladin. Because so long as he was still alive (or at least his demise was not yet certain), bin Ladin was a symbol that loosely tied the Islamic jihadists together. But with the symbol gone, and not even by a martyr’s death (shot in the forehead while not firing back), the militants were already on adrenalin overload, and needed very little provocation.

In fact, one of the things being chanted as the insurgents were swarming over the walls of the compounds, was that “We are Osama!” Ignominious though bin Ladin’s death had been, the militants are trying very hard to raise him to martyr status, a la Che Guevera.

And given the almost involuntary reflexive response by the Current Regime, the militants may have been given a great assist toward that end.


11 posted on 09/14/2012 1:32:24 PM PDT by alloysteel (Are you better off than you were four years ago? Well, are you?)
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To: WhiskeyX
Fine, there's justification for declaring war, to go after the bandits. However, no war has been declared -- meanwhile, it seems that a lot of people in the M.E. believe that the drone attacks are tantamount to a declaration of war by the U.S. They are well aware that they have no chance in open warfare against the U.S. -- but, it seems that they are exercising a third option. There's more going on in the M.E. than vigorous movie reviews.


12 posted on 09/14/2012 1:43:55 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: bkepley; USFRIENDINVICTORIA

I don’t think we do drone strikes in countries without permission.

So the question then becomes, why are these countries giving us permission rather than do it themselves. And I think the answer is that they would rather their people be angry at the U.S. than them.


13 posted on 09/14/2012 2:34:20 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NoLibZone

So Pakistan, Libya and the other ...stans don’t like drone attacks on the terrorist murders they harbor and protect? Then I suggest that their cities be firebombed and destroyed like the USA did to Japan and Germany. Total, all out warfare. Given the choice I’m sure the ...stans will welcome drone attacks. (BTW — Islamabad should be targeted with nukes.)


14 posted on 09/14/2012 3:02:07 PM PDT by StormEye
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sfl


15 posted on 09/14/2012 4:26:21 PM PDT by phockthis (http://www.supremelaw.org/fedzone11/index.htm ...)
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To: DannyTN
I don’t think we do drone strikes in countries without permission.

If we don't then we should. We should do whatever is necessary everywhere in the world to disrupt the terrorist leaders and enablers. Muslims will hate us regardless, possibly even more if we do nothing since they are contemptuous of weakness. Killing the terrorist leaders and enablers everywhere in the world, confiscating their bank accounts, this is the only hope in my opinion to prevent another mass murder of thousands of Americans.

16 posted on 09/17/2012 5:56:59 AM PDT by bkepley
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