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Leave it to the Brits to do the work our own MSM should be doing. The more facts that emerge, the worse the stench is from thus FUBAR.

The path leads straight to HRC and her naive belief that the Libyans would never hurt those who had freed them from Gaddafi.

1 posted on 09/15/2012 8:52:32 PM PDT by barryobi
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To: barryobi

Total incompetence.......


2 posted on 09/15/2012 8:58:02 PM PDT by Red Badger (Anyone who thinks wisdom comes with age is either too young or too stupid to know the difference....)
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To: barryobi

All American diplomatic missions in Islamic countries do not have enough security. Huge flash mobs with core terrorists determined to kill are difficult to repulse. It would take a lot of shooting with intent by Marines and contractors. The Obama administration does not have the willingness to mount a stout defense. Those two ex Seals who died in Bengazi were probably ordered not to fire. They probably died frustrated and astonished.


3 posted on 09/15/2012 9:01:45 PM PDT by allendale
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To: Nachum

Ping


4 posted on 09/15/2012 9:03:25 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar (The pundits have forgotten the 2010 election.)
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To: barryobi

Official: No Marines in Libya at time of Benghazi attack
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2931631/posts


5 posted on 09/15/2012 9:03:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: barryobi

Obama failed, ambassador died.


6 posted on 09/15/2012 9:04:36 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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To: barryobi
Instead, the US consulate was guarded externally by a force of local Libyan militia, many of whom reportedly put down their weapons and fled once the mission came under concerted attack.

Obama outsourced security for the US consulate in Benghazi and Americans died.

10 posted on 09/15/2012 9:19:30 PM PDT by eggman (End the Obama occupation of the White House!)
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To: barryobi

No kidding, how did they ever figure that out?

I think we need to supply these middle east embassies with Mini-guns


11 posted on 09/15/2012 9:24:23 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: barryobi

How embarrassing to have such a worthless press that we must read foreign papers to know what is true! When the Leftist rag, NYT, put stories of the Middle East attacks on Page 4, you know they can never be trusted to be the “paper of record.” Those days are over.


13 posted on 09/15/2012 9:28:39 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: barryobi

What weapons were used to breach? What devices? HOW did Ambassador Stevens suffocate?

Where’s the footage?

Where’s the celebratory footage of the abuse of the corpse? You’d think the muslim world would be slobbering all over themselves.


14 posted on 09/15/2012 9:33:55 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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JULY 2012 : () Officials in Nairobi reported on Monday that two Iranian terrorists who were arrested in Kenya last week were planning to attack Israeli, American, British and Saudi targets in the country.
According to the officials, 15 kg of RDX-type explosives, designed to carry out powerful terrorist attacks, were found to be in the possession of the terrorists.
The suspects denied the charges against them, the officials said. One of them said, “We are asking the court to let us go because we are innocent.”
The Prime Minister’s Office said in response to the report that “Iranian terrorism knows no borders.” The PMO’s statement added, “After Iran sent its men to assassinate the Saudi ambassador on U.S. soil and carry out attacks in Azerbaijan, Bangkok, Tbilisi and New Delhi, its intention to carry out terrorist attacks on African soil has now been exposed. The international community must fight the world’s largest exporter of terror.”(Excerpt) Read more at israelnationalnews.com ...———Kenya Arrests Iranian Terrorists
Arutz Sheva ^ | 2/7/12 | Elad Benari


17 posted on 09/15/2012 9:44:55 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: barryobi
Both US and British diplomats in Benghazi came under attack from suspected Islamist militants in June, as did the International Committee of the Red Cross.

Britain then closed down its permanent presence there that month, moving staff back to the capital Tripoli.

Pretty damning. The WP actually reported almost all of this earlier

19 posted on 09/15/2012 10:16:37 PM PDT by kabar
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To: barryobi

Exactly. The delusion that some how some way it will be different NEXT TIME is a sign of insanity. Our government is rife with it.


20 posted on 09/15/2012 10:23:25 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: barryobi

ping


21 posted on 09/15/2012 10:57:03 PM PDT by dalebert
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To: barryobi
The more facts that emerge, the worse the stench is from thus FUBAR.

I assume you've read about one of those 'local police/guards" taking pictures of the compound not long before the attacks began that night?

Diplomat Killed in Libya Told Fellow Gamers: Hope I ‘Don’t Die Tonight’

On Tuesday, Sean Smith, a Foreign Service Information Management Officer assigned to the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, typed a message to the director of his online gaming guild: ”Assuming we don’t die tonight. We saw one of our ‘police’ that guard the compound taking pictures.” The consulate was under siege, and within hours, a mob would attack, killing Smith along with three others, including the U.S. ambassador.

23 posted on 09/15/2012 11:22:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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24 posted on 09/15/2012 11:57:36 PM PDT by Nachum (The List was hacked- www.nachumlist.com)
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To: barryobi

It’s gross negligence bordering on insanity not to have security beefed up at these embassies around the date of 9/11.

There need to be congressional hearings on this - pronto.


26 posted on 09/16/2012 6:04:59 AM PDT by randita
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To: barryobi

The Obama Administration was warned three days before the 9-11 attack about the deteriorating security in Benghazi.

CNN reported:

Three days before the deadly assault on the United States consulate in Libya, a local security official says he met with American diplomats in the city and warned them about deteriorating security.

Jamal Mabrouk, a member of the February 17th Brigade, told CNN that he and a battalion commander had a meeting about the economy and security.

He said they told the diplomats that the security situation wasn’t good for international business.

“The situation is frightening, it scares us,” Mabrouk said they told the U.S. officials. He did not say how they responded.

http://www.humanevents.com/2012/09/16/despite-four-previous-benghazi-attacks-us-refused-even-standard-security-at-consulate/


28 posted on 09/16/2012 6:52:17 PM PDT by kcvl
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Benghazi, Libya -The United States consulate in Benghazi, Libya was an easy target in a region flowing with heavy weapons and a history of extremist violence, top Libyan officials told Al Jazeera.

Fawzi Abd al-’Aali, the interior ministry’s representative for eastern Libya, told Al Jazeera that the American diplomats should have heeded the advice of Libyan officials and evacuated the building as soon as the protest began.

“We expected something might happen, and we thought they would evacuate the American consulate sooner, while they still had a good chance,” he said.

During the first two hours of the protest, he said, the crowd was small enough that they would probably have been able to escape. Al-’Aali said that Stevens had gravely miscalculated, and had believed the protest would soon die down.


29 posted on 09/16/2012 6:55:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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Paul Mirengoff at Powerline reported that the Marine Corps issued a statement on Thursday confirming that prior to the September 11 murder of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya,  no Marines were stationed in Libya, either at the United States mission in Benghazi or the United States embassy in Tripoli.

The Marine Corps has issued a statement regarding its involvement in the recent actions in Egypt and Libya. ..

In Libya, the Corps says that no Marines are stationed at the Embassy in Tripoli or the Consulate in Benghazi. Security in Libya, such as it existed, apparently was provided by contractors. The Rules of Engagement under which they operated are unclear.

Decisions regarding whether to have Marines at particular U.S. embassies and consulates fall to the State Department, according to the Marine Corps statement. In the case of Tripoli, the Corps says there were discussions with the State Department about establishing a detachment at the embasssy in Tripoli, a new embassy, some time in the next five years. That may seem like a long time, but for bureaucrats it is often considered ASAP.
The security contingent in Egypt proved to be adequate on the day.

According to the Marine Corps, only six of the 2,000 protesters entered the embassy grounds compound, and they were all seized and turned over to local authorities (for better or for worse).

Libya, of course, is another matter. Perhaps the State Department will follow the example of the Marines and issue a statement explaining those security arrangements and their breakdown.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/09/14/State-Department-Rules-of-Engagement-Kept-Marines-Out-of-Tripoli-as-Well-as-Benghazi-in-Libya

Breitbart News received this via email from Marine Corps spokesman Captain Kendra Motz:

While the Marine Corps did not “issue a statement,” we did respond to queries with the following information: . . .

Regarding no Marines at the embassy/consulate in Libya:

Embassy security in Tripoli and the consulate in Benghazi fall under the Regional Security Officer with the State Department.  


30 posted on 09/16/2012 7:01:58 PM PDT by kcvl
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The villa, Poehlitz said, was probably a leased property, lacking security measures such as bulletproof windows and metal doors that prevent forced entry.

“It was relatively small,” said Poehlitz, the former regional security officer for embassies in Yemen, Colombia and Belgium. “It was obviously not designed or built to be a consulate. It lacked the normal security infrastructure.”

Most U.S. consulates and embassies have small security forces of about half a dozen people, Poehlitz said. Embassies in Egypt, Iran and Iraq have sprawling embassies with dozens of security officers, he said.

These embassies – and smaller ones in politically unstable countries – also have Marine guards, but “there’s not enough Marines to go around,” Poehlitz said.

http://www2.tbo.com/news/breaking-news/2012/sep/13/retired-security-officer-libyan-consulate-was-unre-ar-499489/


31 posted on 09/16/2012 7:10:40 PM PDT by kcvl
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