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To: 2ndDivisionVet
This isn't necessarily correct. Current designators generate coordinates to be passed along to air support. If they were asking for air support there isn't any reason they wouldn't generate a list of coordinates they wanted serviced immediately when air support arrived.

Additionally, there was a Predator overhead. They could have been passing coordinates to the Predator crew for them to start working ROE/PID prior to armed air assets arriving. I'm guessing the ROE for this situation would be extremely restrictive.

8 posted on 10/26/2012 6:39:37 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

Hearing reports that Chaffetz has said that Hamm said he was not asked to act.- meaning Spooky wasn’t in the air.


9 posted on 10/26/2012 6:41:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: USNBandit
I'm guessing the ROE for this situation would be extremely restrictive.

I'm guessing if there is a U.S. Consulate under a terrorist attack and your ROE just leaves Americans to die you had better rethink that ROE. And since Benghazi is a hotbed for radicals islamites, just kill them all.

55 posted on 10/26/2012 7:12:25 PM PDT by bigheadfred
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To: USNBandit; reluctantwarrior

How familiar are you with the protocols of the SF? It sure seemed to me that our fellow FReeper who phoned in to Rush knew what he was saying. He has the credentials.


103 posted on 10/26/2012 8:07:59 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: USNBandit

The Predator overhead was unarmed and only capable of a video feed.


192 posted on 10/27/2012 3:14:53 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: USNBandit

The Predator overhead was unarmed and only capable of a video feed.


193 posted on 10/27/2012 3:15:07 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (Read SCOTUS Castle Rock vs Gonzales before dialing 911!)
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To: USNBandit

Rush’s caller was careful to say he was leaving out the details——as he should. But his basic drift was accurate as to how chain-of-command stuff works. That’s why they give some of us stars/bars on our shoulders. Sometimes we draw the short straw and have to get the job done whether someone answers the aircover/artillery/backup/permission slip phone or not. That oath that “O’s” take carries a lot of responsibility with it and it sounds like there was at least one slider in the loop this time. Notably missing from this whole story is the absense of any actual US military people anywhere on the ground in Libya that had any direct involvement in the whole clusterflock. By all accounts Stevens and his staff were either “state dept. “ or security contractors. The guys at the Annex were either all CIA or security contractors. While CIA can designate targets they don’t have heavy weapons themselves which explains why FOX’s Greg Palkot explained that the Annex rescue party was armed with handguns. But there are plenty of survivors from the event and until we hear from at least a few of them we probably won’t have a reasonable picture of the whole hootenany-———————I just remember how it usually works out for people who waste our guys.


286 posted on 10/27/2012 5:32:14 PM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: USNBandit
>"I'm guessing the ROE for this situation would be extremely restrictive. "

As long as 0m0slem is respected, these are our ROE against slimes.


325 posted on 10/28/2012 6:51:28 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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