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Former Pacific Fleet chief: We need full disclosure on Benghazi — now
Hot Air ^ | 10/30/12 | Ed Morrisey

Posted on 10/30/2012 6:54:22 AM PDT by mgist

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To: mgist

I have to believe, that Romney, if this election were within any sort of margin of error, would be discussing this issue daily.

But Romney knows that he is clear of Obama, and needs to avoid any move that changes the current election dynamic. The idea that we let Congress deal with this later, is the right action IF, indeed, Romney is going to be our next President.

As hopeful as I am about this election, winning the Senate seems out of reach sadly. If someone believes otherwise, please, share that with me!


21 posted on 10/30/2012 9:06:29 AM PDT by Professional
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To: Servant of the Cross

How convenient for the storm to take over the news right now. This story will not be known by the “masses”. Biggest story of my 46 year lifetime and only us conservatives know about it. Our media is truly the enemy.


22 posted on 10/30/2012 9:08:30 AM PDT by In God I trust
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To: Travis McGee

Travis,

Do recall any mention of Hillary calling Libya to get clearance to enter their
airspace , which was denied.

I think I heard it quickly on Fox one day.


23 posted on 10/30/2012 9:11:47 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: BlatherNaut

We are relying on fragmentary and possibly misheard or misunderstood reporter’s versions thereof. We still do not know if the two Predators over Benghazi came from outside of Libya, or from inside. We do not know if the Predators were armed, or unarmed, and what the ROE were determining if they would take off armed or unarmed.

The CIA might have ROE to state that Predator recon flights are unarmed, unless the NCA orders otherwise. That seems reasonable to me, but we don’t know for sure at this point.

In regards to the IR Laser Aiming Device, it was probably just on the former SEAL’s personal M-4, a typical DBAL type device. In conjunction with a NOD, (PVS-14 etc) he would use it to make accurate shots in that environment, or he could also use it to designate a target such as a mortar team.

Remember, some reporter talked to an operator who had last spoken to the SEALs, probably prior to them manning the MG on the annex roof. The reporter is perhaps reporting garbled information. We are just seeing as through a glass, darkly.

We still don’t know if the Predators were armed, or if an AC-130 gunship was over Benghazi. We just don’t know. Anybody who says they know, I want to read that report to see if it’s just wishful thinking, projection, bad reorting, or factual.


24 posted on 10/30/2012 9:16:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: dps.inspect
Watch for some reason to have General Ham arrested and locked up in military jail till way after the election...

Yep, let's make this into a firestorm for Republican and independents not already up in arms about this.

25 posted on 10/30/2012 9:18:33 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: patriotspride

Hillary “calling Libya to ask for clearance” is the same as saying “POTUS did not grant CBA.”

CBA means our military is going in, now, armed, on our own mission, without the permission or knowledge of the subject nation.

If Hillary had to go asking for permission, logically, it is a “need” only because Obama rejected granting CBA.


26 posted on 10/30/2012 9:18:42 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Even if Ham is removed from command, he is still in the Army, and subject to military discipline.”

Not so now. He is in the middle of retiring as we speak. (I just learned that.) Once he retires, which is right away, he owes no allegiance to his crooked military superiors. He can talk all he wants after that.


27 posted on 10/30/2012 9:19:43 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Travis McGee

Hillary “calling Libya to ask for clearance” is the same as saying “POTUS did not grant CBA.”

CBA means our military is going in, now, armed, on our own mission, without the permission or knowledge of the subject nation.

If Hillary had to go asking for permission, logically, it is a “need” only because Obama rejected granting CBA.


Thanks.

I have posted elsewhere that I think he played some weasel words to shift
blame onto Libya, and off himself.

Agree there was no CBA , which resulted in reasons for “ stand down” and CIA
comments on not being the one who wouldn’t help.

He loves to have things unclear, and both ways.

Appreciate your insights/answers on this critical topic. The news organizations seem to get hung up in the minutia and don’t go to the critical points.

Well done. Keep it coming. The more people we can get to focus on this the better


28 posted on 10/30/2012 9:24:40 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: patriotspride

You got it. CBA is like the Rosetta Stone for understanding Benghazi. It’s like King Arthur’s Sword, stuck in the rock. Only one man can pull it out: the Obama, wielding his POTUS scepter.

If only the reporters understood this, it makes so much clear, and blows away so much of the deliberate smokescreen of lies, half-truths, and weasel words surrounding this disgrace.


29 posted on 10/30/2012 9:32:17 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
Not so now. He is in the middle of retiring as we speak. (I just learned that.) Once he retires, which is right away, he owes no allegiance to his crooked military superiors. He can talk all he wants after that.

Not necessarily. It would be standard, particularly for senior officers, that they are informed that they are still subject to penalties for divulging classified information. All Obama has to do is declare the details of the Libya incident "classified".

30 posted on 10/30/2012 9:37:53 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (political correctness is communist thought control, disguised as good manners)
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To: dps.inspect

Watch for some reason to have General Ham arrested and locked up in military jail till way after the election...


He better be more concerned about not ending up the way Gen. Patton did after he was dismissed from duty in WWII...killed in a freak accident.


31 posted on 10/30/2012 9:40:53 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: mgist

BTTT


32 posted on 10/30/2012 10:22:10 AM PDT by mickie (My grandson is a Marine...God Bless them all!)
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To: Travis McGee
We are relying on fragmentary and possibly misheard or misunderstood reporter’s versions thereof.

You're absolutely right.

And even though it's impossible for us to know the details, what we do know (the aspects you are focusing on) is damning enough.

33 posted on 10/30/2012 11:50:26 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: mgist; All
This segment on Hannity last might made me cry. Please share with others. Thanks!

Powerful Hannity Show - 10/29/12 - Father of SEAL Ty Woods killed in Libya demands truth from WH

34 posted on 10/30/2012 2:23:18 PM PDT by Larousse2 (The price of Freedom is Eternal Vigilance. ~ Thomas Jefferson)
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To: dps.inspect
Watch for some reason to have General Ham arrested and locked up in military jail till way after the election...

No. Expect a *tragic* loss of a military aircraft, with everyone aboard perishing.

35 posted on 10/30/2012 4:25:13 PM PDT by archy
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To: dps.inspect
Watch for some reason to have General Ham arrested and locked up in military jail till way after the election...

No. Expect a *tragic* loss of a military aircraft, with everyone aboard perishing.

36 posted on 10/30/2012 4:25:37 PM PDT by archy
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To: mgist
When are men going to stand up and say "This will NOT stand"

Instead what we have are wimps that sit by and complain, whimper and accept that they will not do anything except sit and complain.

37 posted on 10/30/2012 6:50:19 PM PDT by jongaltsr
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To: dps.inspect

That’s probably why the ‘YouTube video’ maker is still in jail. He knows something.. I recall that one of the original actresses in this film said that it was originally never about Mohammed in the first place.. Is it possible that the audio was overdubbed by a third source after the movie was made, to be used as some sort of cover story by our gov’t in the ME??


38 posted on 10/30/2012 7:25:14 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: archy

Like those SEALs in that chopper that went down in Afghanistan shortly after the OBL raid..


39 posted on 10/30/2012 7:26:28 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Ahhhh... Obama should go to jail...


40 posted on 10/30/2012 7:51:35 PM PDT by dps.inspect (rage against the Obama machine...)
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