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Benghazi Gates Part 2, What happened to Ambassador Stevens?
YouTube ^ | 11/6/2012 | Dave Mellon

Posted on 11/07/2012 8:30:24 PM PST by Dave Mellon

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To: annieokie

Ben Ghazi Gates

http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe7Cn6jlCwaQzTIHAxKGrrA

Here ya go, annie.


61 posted on 11/08/2012 9:26:38 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: annieokie

I keep my lists in a folder in my private files with notepad. I have seen some people post them to their profile pages.
If I had to type in each individual name everytime I ping one of my lists, they would never get it because it would take forever. One list has almost two hundred names on it.
Copy/paste! It’s a wonderful thing.


62 posted on 11/08/2012 9:37:05 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: MestaMachine
Thank you so very much. Looks like I will be busy the rest of the day.

I/we can't leave this undone, it must be UP front and CENTER every day. It must be hounded into Congress attention, we will never give this up, NEVER.

If we do, then none of our Servicemen and women are SAFE anywhere. Clinton and Obama share equally in these murders now and in the past sins of Clinton to do nothing.

NEVER AGAIN.......never again. THIS is our Pearl Harbor moment. I can take many things in this life that our Gov't dishes out, but I refuse to stand by and continue to watch these happenings happen once more. May I say here, I believe many of these happenings are set up purposely for POLITICAL GAIN, there it is.

I pray the Congress committees feel the same way. BUT alas............time has a way of erasing memories, until it becomes he said/she said. God help us.

63 posted on 11/08/2012 9:38:40 AM PST by annieokie
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To: MestaMachine; Dave Mellon
Thanks Mesta: I am pinging Dave with this info as well.

I use Copy/paste a lot. Just thought there was somewhere on FR to have a permanent Ping List. Maybe in the future.

64 posted on 11/08/2012 9:43:29 AM PST by annieokie
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To: annieokie
I feel the same way you do. I have been obsessed with this ever since it happened. Here is the index, BTW.

OR

If you add the keywords threatmatrix, or navyseals to the keywords above the posts, it will show up in the index.

65 posted on 11/08/2012 9:49:32 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Jim Noble
That is one of the most believable speculations about the attack that I have seen. It explains how a very small force of Libyan security agents (who are known to have supplied photographic intel to the attackers) was able to, apparently, push back an estimated 120 - 200 well armed jihadi attackers at the main consulate compound.

Apart from a possible arms cache and cash stocks this is what I have thought from the beginning was prize enough to carry out the assault...

Sacking of Benghazi consulate “a catastrophic intelligence loss”

66 posted on 11/08/2012 10:22:29 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: MestaMachine
Hit preview and viola!

It works!

67 posted on 11/08/2012 10:43:53 AM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye
It explains how a very small force of Libyan security agents (who are known to have supplied photographic intel to the attackers) was able to, apparently, push back an estimated 120 - 200 well armed jihadi attackers at the main consulate compound.

Yes, the "attack" on the "consulate" was a well-scripted feint, except they didn't expect Woods to show up and start killing jihadis. The firefight got out of hand, a fire started, and poor Stevens, locked in his jail cell/"secure room" suffocated.

I'm sure this caused some consternation among enemy commanders, since they must have expected the same thing Woods and Doherty expected - air assault followed by rescue forces.

But they were well-drilled and their objective - the "warehouse" - was obviously very important.

68 posted on 11/08/2012 11:47:43 AM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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To: MestaMachine
Thanks Mesta. Great info.
69 posted on 11/08/2012 11:52:23 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TigersEye

Dyslexia is often more pronounced when one is barely awake. Snort.


70 posted on 11/08/2012 11:54:08 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills and none dare call it treason)
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To: Jim Noble
Yes, the "attack" on the "consulate" was a well-scripted feint, except they didn't expect Woods to show up and start killing jihadis. The firefight got out of hand, a fire started, and poor Stevens, locked in his jail cell/"secure room" suffocated.

I agree with part of that. It does look like a diversion. I don't know that 'Woods' was killing many jihadis at the main compound though. Either personally or as a team. He came with 5-6 Americans and about 17 members of the 17th Feb. Martyrs Brigade. Woods and the Americans went into the compound to round up survivors while the 17 Libyans secured the perimeter.

I have some doubts that the Libyans exchanged much fire with the attackers. Not much has been reported about that being much of a firefight. That's why I buy the 'diversion' theory. The Libyan security went out and did a hand wave and the attackers withdrew knowing that the diversion was working.

The main consulate was already on fire before Woods' team arrived. They found Sean Smith's body in the smoke and due to smoke and fire couldn't find Stevens' body.

The real firefight began back at the annex shortly after Woods and the survivors made it back. At least one of their SUVs took heavy fire on the way back too.

71 posted on 11/08/2012 12:04:30 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: MestaMachine

Don’t I know it!?! lol


72 posted on 11/08/2012 12:05:40 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye
Questions ... The consulate was the location of Ambassador Stevens. Mr. Woods and his team came from the annex? The annex was the fall back from what am gleaming after rescue which was not possible. The consulate attack was a diversion? Does this mean the annex was the primary target? The annex probably had more documents and secret information is a guess. What your implication implies and due to the heavy fire taken is more preplanned than first or ever was told us. I do not doubt you, was simply unaware of the primary target, for the jihadists, was the annex. My thought was the target was Ambassador Stevens. This opens up an unexplored area for me.
73 posted on 11/08/2012 12:18:15 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: Jim Noble; TigersEye
the "warehouse"

the warehouse was the annex? Thought the warehouse was a building off from the annex about 60 yards.

74 posted on 11/08/2012 12:26:32 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: no-to-illegals; Jim Noble
Questions ... The consulate was the location of Ambassador Stevens. Mr. Woods and his team came from the annex?

Yes, that is correct.

The annex was the fall back from what am gleaming after rescue which was not possible.

I'm not sure what you're asking. The rescue was successful as far as Woods' team collecting all the survivors and getting them back to the annex.

The consulate attack was a diversion? Does this mean the annex was the primary target? The annex probably had more documents and secret information is a guess.

Well those are speculations Jim Noble and I are batting around. I agree that the annex probably had more and more important docs since it was a CIA facility. That is still speculation since the admin is doing its best to suppress as much info as it can.

Just my opinion but if Stevens was the target I think they, the attackers, would have tried a lot harder to find him. Frankly I think one of their main goals was simply to drive the U.S. out of Benghazi. They drove the Brits, Red Cross and every other westerner but us out already. By itself that humiliation for us is a big win for al Qaeda.

75 posted on 11/08/2012 12:41:29 PM PST by TigersEye (Who is John Galt?)
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To: TigersEye
Thank You. after rescue which was not possible .... to clarify was typing of rescue Ambassador Stevens attempt.
76 posted on 11/08/2012 2:14:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: TigersEye
How much of a sociopathic monster is the POTUS?

Everything Obama has done is consistent with what a Muslim traitor would do.

EVERYTHING!

And I don't just mean Libya. Spending, social programs, Muslim Brotherhood, Arab Spring, union corruption, global warming, destroying electrical production in US with his war on coal......

We have a Muslim traitor in the White House. It explains everything this clown has done and will do in the future.

77 posted on 11/08/2012 2:38:19 PM PST by politicianslie (Obama: Our first Muslim PRESIDENT,destroying America $1 Trillion at a time! And America sleeps)
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To: MestaMachine

I will work on the ping list but it will take a while as the pings go back to my first video. The interest is real and I owe it to everyone.


78 posted on 11/08/2012 7:05:46 PM PST by Dave Mellon (Dave Mellon aka Ben Ghazi Gates)
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To: nikos1121
“I clearly recall reading that the MD in the ER where Stevens was taken, said that Stevens was alive when arrived, and that in fact he was talking”...,

I never heard this from the doctor directly so if you can point me to a video, even if the Doctor speaks Arabic (he speaks very little english) let me know. I can tell you that your statement ‘“We tried so hard for peace.”’ is very similar to what was actually said in the morgue when two men looked at the Ambassador. That correct quote is “the Ambassador, he used to be supporting peace”.

I cannot say it is a lie with 100% certainty. I can discuss the facts that we can ascertain from what we see and hear on the various videos. I think the facts speak for themselves.

An autopsy is automatic in the case of any murder as this was so yes there was an autopsy and it was almost certainly done by the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP). There is nothing in the world that would stop me from getting my own autopsy if this happened to a family member of mine! Many people get turned off by such talk but I would have to know with certainty what happened before I could move on.

I certainly believe that this was a coordinated attack. Have you watched Benghazi Gates Part 1? You can find it on my YouTube Channel “Ben Ghazi Gates”. Why gates? Watch Part 1 and you'll get it. In part 3 which is next you'll really get it!

It bothers me that amateur sleuths have to do the job of the news media.

79 posted on 11/08/2012 7:27:22 PM PST by Dave Mellon (Dave Mellon aka Ben Ghazi Gates)
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To: Jim Noble
"I think that Stevens was not the primary target of the enemy military operations in Benghazi that night"

He was the primary target at the "Consulate location" that is a given based on what was said by the terrorists. They specifically mentioned "the American".

"...he probably died of smoke inhalation while locked in the “safe room”."

He left the safe room. If he was there they would have found him. Yes the Ambassador most likely died of smoke inhalation--the CO levels would have been very high. His wounds were post mortem--no blood pressure means no bleeding. The safe haven area also had outer wooden doors go look at the FNC video again. The terrorists broke in past those wooden doors which had decorative windows in the top which let the smoke in. If instead of wooden doors with pretty windows, we had installed steel doors with an old fashioned horizontal locking bar on the back, they would have likely survived.

I can't really comment on the rest as I have not spent much time on the annex though I did do extensive internet searches for videos and photos with no luck.

80 posted on 11/08/2012 9:30:36 PM PST by Dave Mellon (Dave Mellon aka Ben Ghazi Gates)
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