Posted on 11/10/2012 3:14:18 PM PST by smoothsailing
see post #39
He should ask to take snapshouts of the books or at least count the pages NOW.
If ballots are counted in each precinct, as they used to be in the US, with overseers of all parties present, and the count made the official one, with ballots locked in bonded storage, it is a small matter to remove votes from the party not in control of the count. With counts, not precincts, reporting ten to forty percent more votes than registered voters, it is now easy to remove the votes the counting party doesn't want counted.
We do not have verifiable voting. Stalin explained the principle long ago. All that matters is who does the counting, and today, in most states, that counting is reported by the SEIU working for state's attorneys general. Political powers removed our secure voting to allow networks to provide real time results, or so they said, over forty years ago. Without verifiable voting we have a dictatorship, and we absolutely do not have verifiable voting. The mechanisms interfering with the full implementation of whatever you want to call it, Communism, socialism, oligarchy, the three branches of government are being and have been subverted by government agencies controlled by the executive. Our judiciary is now a branch of the executive. Federal judges are all political appointees, as are judges in our final appeals court, the Supreme Court, which will shortly have six progressives who are quite open about their preference for a “living Constitution”, and their president who considers the Constitution a historical relic needing a new bill of rights.
Our economy will fail, as Cloward and Piven planned, and as all socialist economies do. We who know have the advantage bacause we know not to depend upon a bankrupt government, and most of us have provided a service of value to other citizens, and can continue to do so, if need be, via the largest markets thriving in the USSR before their collapse, black markets. What allies we had, other than the Saudis, who paid for Barack's Columbia and Harvard education, have been making adjustments for a while. Our society will have to learn what it means to have producers and leeches.
The sad truth is that without verifiable voting, we don't really know what citizens know or believe, so many who did work hard will lose what they produced. The means of determining the will of the people has been subverted so we will have to develop communication outside the purview of the government leeches. The Tea Parties are only one such mechanism.
This writer recalls a brilliant former UN Ambassador name Jeanne Kirkpatrick. She believed that what really brought down the Soviet Union was the advent of network communication available to the intelligentsia - the military. Virtually every institute of higher learning worked for the Soviet Military. To try to keep pace with weapons development and communications required that researchers and military officers communicate. The reality of misery and waste, and the relative wealth of free market societies, was thus known to those who could and did undermine their hated government institutions.
We must organize to destroy our dictatorial government. They have no provable mandate because voting is a joke, controlled by their henchmen. The Unions are a small part of our working society, but embedded in gatekeeper roles in our government bureaucracy. Soros and his fellow travelers are smart people, and invested in a project to subvert secretaries of state years ago. The SEIU works for those skillfully selected secretaries of state. We are all learning the reality of a coup.
Now, if we're talking about the election as a race, and they use printed ballots, does that makes the ballots...
...race cards?
Free and fair elections allow for the transition of power without conflict. Now that free and fair elections are an institutio of the past, power will be taken by thioose best equipped to do so.Right now the left have the ability to seize take power regardless of the vote.
One of the elements necessary for civil war is now present.
Disenfranchizement will not lead to anything good.Eventually it will lead to violence and war.
Perhaps something similar to the Battle of Athens, Tennessee is needed tomorrow morning. Ever notice that the dems don’t want to count the votes in public.
That’s the problem; Boehner is almost certain to be for seating the Democrat!
That is true. People will tolerate these injustices for only so long.
Someone needs to propose a state law saying any precinct with more than 100% votes triggers an automatic recount.
Anyone who votes against that gets reamed before the next election.
That St. Lucie report was total CARDS not total votes. Wuth the high number of referendums, two cards were required to fill out. That is where the total mixup of 141%+ whatever comes in. The actual votes were 71%
He spoke the truth with conviction and passion. he was too direct, too honest and too succinct. People want false promises and lies, so there you have it in a nutshell. G-d bless West and the USA.
That there is some "glitch".
140% of the registered voters submitting ballots is a bigger "glitch" (or is that SNAFU?)
There was an election for the House in IN several years ago where the Republican was actually leading by a small margin and the House overrode it and seated the Dem. The House makes it’s own rules. If it become obvious that the count has been tainted the House needs to grow a spin and seat West. Would the the first step on the way back instead of shuffling around with our heads hung down!
There was an election for the House in IN several years ago where the Republican was actually leading by a small margin and the House overrode it and seated the Dem. The House makes it’s own rules. If it become obvious that the count has been tainted the House needs to grow a spin and seat West. Would the the first step on the way back instead of shuffling around with our heads hung down!
From Tea Party Command center:
URGENT: ELECTION FRAUD VOLUNTEERS NEEDED IN WI, OH, PA, VA, FL
As usual, the more they count, the more votes they “find” for the commucrat. Stalin was right.
” - - - Thats the problem; Boehner is almost certain to be for seating the Democrat! - - - “
All the more reason to REPLACE, before Thanksgiving, and IGNORE, from then on, the Esteemed Sobber of the House Boehner, whose motto has consistently been: “LOSE AT ANY COST!”
BTW, Boehner is really scared of “nasty confrontations” (his words). A prime example of Negative Leadership in action!
Thought for the day: With Cave-In RINO “Leaders” such as Boehner, how can the Demorats POSSIBLY fail?
From Allen West:
God bless and thanks to all of you here in the Treasure Coast and across America who have joined with us in the fight to protect and preserve the American democratic electoral process. Your efforts and voices are being heard and you have all become guardians of Americas honor. A special hat tip and a hearty steadfast and loyal. I will not let you down.
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I am happy to see that Congressman West is going to make sure that all the ballots are re-counted! Fair and honest elections is what EVERY honest American wants! Until we can trust the election process there will always be divisions. Many results across the country are not proving to be accurate according to the Numbers! Numbers of sign-in signatures vs number of ballots cast. When the numbers dont add up, we know there is ELECTION FRAUD!
From Allen West:
God bless and thanks to all of you here in the Treasure Coast and across America who have joined with us in the fight to protect and preserve the American democratic electoral process. Your efforts and voices are being heard and you have all become guardians of Americas honor. A special hat tip and a hearty steadfast and loyal. I will not let you down.
***
I am happy to see that Congressman West is going to make sure that all the ballots are re-counted! Fair and honest elections is what EVERY honest American wants! Until we can trust the election process there will always be divisions. Many results across the country are not proving to be accurate according to the Numbers! Numbers of sign-in signatures vs number of ballots cast. When the numbers dont add up, we know there is ELECTION FRAUD!
From Allen West:
God bless and thanks to all of you here in the Treasure Coast and across America who have joined with us in the fight to protect and preserve the American democratic electoral process. Your efforts and voices are being heard and you have all become guardians of Americas honor. A special hat tip and a hearty steadfast and loyal. I will not let you down.
***
I am happy to see that Congressman West is going to make sure that all the ballots are re-counted! Fair and honest elections is what EVERY honest American wants! Until we can trust the election process there will always be divisions. Many results across the country are not proving to be accurate according to the Numbers! Numbers of sign-in signatures vs number of ballots cast. When the numbers dont add up, we know there is ELECTION FRAUD!
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