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Boehner tightens grip on GOP rank and file ahead of deficit talks
The Hill ^ | 11/20/12 | Molly K. Hooper

Posted on 11/20/2012 8:51:24 AM PST by Qbert

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To: ilgipper

Boehner doesn’t give a damn about conservatives and their issues.
The party has tried its bet to get rid of tea party conservatives.
Got to go along to get along and they ALL b making money.


41 posted on 11/20/2012 9:40:52 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: what's up

It goes without saying that the DNC is corrupt greedy. That is not a revelation.

That said, does anyone really have confidence in the GOP establishment, at this point?

Where does that leave Conservative Americans?

I was living on the hope that “O’s” abysmal performance in his first term would certainly preclude a second term for him.

Now, I ‘m not sure that “O’s” equally (if not worse) second term will keep ANOTHER Liberal out of the WH.

It’s a desperate situation for Conservatives. Among the many challenges they face in the next four years are:

• Clarify their relationship (if any remains) with the GOP establishment
• If there really is NO common ground with the GOP establishment, formalize their status as an alternate party
• Groom and field alternate and electable candidates for offices across the board, including a Presidential nominee strong enough and committed enough to challenge a GOP nominee
• Articulate a clear and forceful posture on the basic issues and STICK TO IT!
• Pledge to US and to EACH OTHER that absolutely NO intimidation by the Liberals and their biased MSM creatures will go unanswered

It will be impossible to go on and continue calling ourselves Conservatives if at least THIS much isn’t accomplished.


42 posted on 11/20/2012 10:02:10 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Qbert
The Senate Dems have flat out said "No" to any entitlement reform. Obama has declared multiple times he wants to raise taxes on the "wealthy".

Of course they have. That's obviously what they've been saying for years.

is a situation where loopholes are taken out, without reduced rates (which effectively is a tax increase)... all for a "binding" promise next year

Don't think so. Reid is the one who has called for everything to be negotiated now while Obama's popularity is highest (including so-called entitlemmet reform). They don't want any part of a deal to go till next year when the Obamacare taxes are hitting.

Boehner will likely put off some of the negotiations till next year (in order to see Obama's popularity diminish first) but will tie it to something the Dems want now to force them back to the table.

43 posted on 11/20/2012 10:04:15 AM PST by what's up
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To: Qbert

Regardless of what a scumball Boehner is, let’s be clear on one point: The Hill is a Marxist publication designed to promote fascism and communism, and the commie slut who wrote this did so to infuriate and divide conservatives.


44 posted on 11/20/2012 10:04:34 AM PST by sergeantdave (The FBI has declared war on the Marine Corps)
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and the commie slut who wrote this did so to infuriate and divide conservatives.

Personally, I myself don't believe ANYTHING the media writes about Boehner knowing this is exactly their intention. OF COURSE their intent is to get conservatives to despise their leader.

They succeeded in getting Hastert hated so Pelosi could take over.

Their ploy works just about every time.

45 posted on 11/20/2012 10:08:21 AM PST by what's up
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To: Qbert
shot down a challenge to his earmark moratorium

Yes, he's tough with his fellow Republicans. Shoot down the Earmarks, then give Barry and company a few trillion for THEIR cronies.

It might make sense if the Republicans swore off earmarks and then used it as a powerful propaganda weapon against the Democrats. But did they even mention it during the late campaign? Do the news media ever mention it? Does anyone know about it? Or remember it from about four years ago or whenever it was that they first did it?

Nothing like beating yourself over the head and not even making any practical use of it.

46 posted on 11/20/2012 10:10:56 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SMARTY
#1 on the top of my list would be to attack the media.

I consider the media our main enemy. This is where the most active and effective commies live. Their purpose has been twofold: 1) raise Obama and 2) get us to train our guns on the GOP.

If ALL guns were pointed at the media instead of ourselves this would solve 90% of the problem IMO.

47 posted on 11/20/2012 10:14:54 AM PST by what's up
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To: Qbert

Replace Boehner.


48 posted on 11/20/2012 10:38:55 AM PST by visioneer2
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To: Qbert
He's like Romney: viciously attack members of your own party when it serves you, and then French kiss your opponents at the most inopportune time.

This is exactly what he is supposed to do. They are all whored out to the elites that own them exclusively.

49 posted on 11/20/2012 10:45:05 AM PST by Digger
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To: Qbert

Boehner has shored up his power. Great now he can lead the whole GOP cadre over the cliff with him. We are so screwed.


50 posted on 11/20/2012 12:58:35 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Qbert
A respected and affable Speaker, Boehner


51 posted on 11/20/2012 1:21:40 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Colonel_Flagg
“The Party That Just Doesn’t Get It” strikes again.

I am afraid they do get it, they just hope that we don't see what party they really belong to.

52 posted on 11/20/2012 1:23:52 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: Qbert
It's one thing to close loopholes- if you get reduced rates. But where are the reduced rates? We can't keep relying on nebulous promises in the future.

Working people have nothing they can deduct now except Union Dues, uniforms and Mortgage interest.

We got a 10-10-10 rate cut under Reagan, it was touted as thirty percent but not true.

100-10% =90
90-10%=81
81-10% = 72.9

Effective cut = 27%

Working stiffs lost nearly all breaks making it hard to file anything other than a standard short form. That is why tax the rich is such an effective meme.

53 posted on 11/20/2012 1:50:25 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: what's up
There is no challenge for him

Not true, Louie Gomert nominated Newt Gingrich's as a candidate for Speaker.

Oddly enough the Speaker of the House does not need to be a member of Congress.

I expect Louie will have an attractive opponent in the next election.

54 posted on 11/20/2012 1:55:59 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot
Newt already had a turn as Speaker.

He was lambasted when he folded in the "shut the Gov't down" fight.

He resigned shortly after amid accusations that he was having an affair.

Not a good choice.

55 posted on 11/20/2012 2:00:26 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
OF COURSE their intent is to get conservatives to despise their leader.

Then they have an easy task, I hated Boehner before he was Speaker, he is a GOPe scum, he hated West and Bachman, almost got rid of both.

56 posted on 11/20/2012 2:01:33 PM PST by itsahoot (Any enemy, that is allowed to have a King's X line, is undefeatable. (USS Taluga AO-62))
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To: itsahoot
Then they have an easy task

Yes, they know how to win no matter who the leader is.

57 posted on 11/20/2012 2:04:37 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Let's pray God gives him strength for the upcoming fight.

Do you work for Boehner? Anyone who thinks that Boehner does not HATE Conservatives with a white-hot passion is delusional.

House members actually like and respect him.

LOL. some may say that publicly, but with Boehner ruling with an iron first the can't speak honestly about Beohner without unfairly being punished.

I will bookmark this thread. I have absolutely no doubt that Boehner will capitulate. I will come back to remind you of your sickening sycophantic support of a the rabid Statist known as Boehner.

58 posted on 11/20/2012 5:27:12 PM PST by sand88
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If you recall, Boehner walked away from the table regarding tax hikes before.

He refused to answer the phone when Obama chased him, sending Obama into a tantrum.

I'm hoping the same thing happens again. No, I don't work for the Speaker.

59 posted on 11/20/2012 5:35:52 PM PST by what's up
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To: what's up
Really?

Are you sure?

Got proof?

60 posted on 11/20/2012 5:48:29 PM PST by Osage Orange ( Liberalism, ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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