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The Law of Unintended Consequences must be obeyed............
1 posted on 11/29/2012 11:31:05 AM PST by Red Badger
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To: Red Badger

Let it go into affect. REV II comes earlier than expected.


2 posted on 11/29/2012 11:34:06 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Red Badger

Yeh, but we all know the good consequences will be attributed to the genius of The One and the negative consequences will be blamed on the GOP, Bush, a hurricane, bad hair day, etc. The media is so afraid of this administration,,they don’t dare bark out of turn.


3 posted on 11/29/2012 11:35:39 AM PST by austinaero
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To: Red Badger

I never plan for a refund and have always raised my withholdings by 1 if I get one. I was looking for that sweet spot where I don’t get a refund and only have to pay a small amount.

I moved my 401(k) to a Roth and got married this year. On top of that, with all the crap going on in DC, the wife and I are preparing for a perfect storm of taxmageddon. I’m preparing for a tax bill well in excess of $10,000.


4 posted on 11/29/2012 11:37:13 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Red Badger
Is this a THREAT??? Bring it on....

If the SPENDING is not dealt with NOW, nothing else matters anyway. It will only get worse and continue on until the NEXT FISCAL CLIFF when once again we (as in the taxpayer) is at a CRISIS again.

In all my years of living, there has ALWAYS BEEN A CRISIS that WE need to FIX with OUR money. I can't remember a year without one. They simply can't get enough.

Destroy their CREDIT CARD TODAY. If they don't, we need a MAJOR PROTEST IN D.C.

7 posted on 11/29/2012 11:48:15 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Red Badger
I use TurboTax to handle my taxes. If I trigger the AMT, it is usually because of my home mortgage interest or local property taxes inserted as deductions. Sometimes you are simply ahead to remove those deductions and recalculate. The money is gone already. It's a matter of optimizing the refund of excess I've already paid.

Rush has been discussing chatter about taking away the 401k deductions. That will ensure that I stop making those contributions and move the money accrued to a better place. The bastards always have their hands in your pockets.

9 posted on 11/29/2012 11:59:47 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Red Badger

unintended consequences?

This was all agreed back in the day for the debt ceiling increase, right??


10 posted on 11/29/2012 12:01:34 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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I don’t calculate if I owe AMT, never have, never will. If the IRS want’s to do the work and determine I owe it and send me a bill, more power to them. But so far they haven’t...


12 posted on 11/29/2012 12:04:44 PM PST by apillar
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To: Red Badger

This was all foreseen and intended. There is no Unintended Consequences. Nothing that happens in politics is unintended or unforeseen. They wanted it this way.

They deliberately and intentionally, with full knowledge and awareness, refused to index this tax for inflation.

Note that the same bastards indexed their pay and pension for inflation.

It’s not incompetence. It’s deliberate.


13 posted on 11/29/2012 12:05:35 PM PST by I want the USA back (Fascism is wrong even when practiced by the government.)
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“Implemented in 1969 to make sure upper-income Americans pay their share of taxes, the AMT has increasingly snared more middle-income Americans over the years because it was never indexed for inflation.”

You can’t blame Pres. Bush for this one. This is the doing of the Democrat congress in 1996 playing the class warfare game, and now, with the shameful devaluing of the dollar by inflation over the decades, people making as little as
$33,750 are considered “rich” enough to pay this surcharge on “millionaires.”
Sound familiar? Obama’s class warfare/redistribution scam will gut the middle class just as Democrats have always done.


14 posted on 11/29/2012 12:07:15 PM PST by txrefugee
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Every year they put a temporary patch on it because they don’t really want to fix it.


15 posted on 11/29/2012 12:15:35 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Why is the government more concerned about protecting a microbe on Mars than an unborn baby here?)
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I’m thinking that I picked a bad time to tile the kitchen.


20 posted on 11/29/2012 12:37:46 PM PST by Gator113 (**WHO in the hell gave the damn order to NOT rescue our men in Benghazi?**)
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To: Red Badger

Good!!!! I got hit with the AMT once, it was very, very painful. I want the pain to be felt FAR and WIDE.


23 posted on 11/29/2012 12:41:27 PM PST by riri (Plannedopolis-look it up. It's how the elites plan for US to live.)
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If only people making $33K a year WOULD pay some taxes.

Right now I think they are on the bubble for getting EITC.


24 posted on 11/29/2012 12:42:16 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Red Badger
With apologies to John Ratzenberger...


28 posted on 11/29/2012 12:57:58 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Red Badger
The funny and annoying thing about the AMT is that it is an alternate flat tax system. I guess the flat part is funny since an out front flat tax is controversial; the annoying part is that you have to go through the tax calculation twice, picking whichever is worse. What's more, insofar as there are tax incentives in the code to act/spend/invest one way or another, they are unclear--you don't know whether or not to act upon them, or whether they'll make no difference until you calcuate your tax both ways at the end of the year.

You don't have to be wealthy to be annoyed with this. Just be middle class and use TurboTax (or its equivalent) and you'll know what I mean.

37 posted on 11/29/2012 2:12:01 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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I wish I qualified for the AMT -- it would lower my taxes.

But yes, Washington creates tax laws then gets upset when people follow them and the rich don't pay enough. So they create a second tax system which doesn't solve the problem. And they're still upset when rich people still don't pay enough taxes. So they create a third tax system...

40 posted on 11/29/2012 6:34:56 PM PST by RagingBull (Talent does what it can; genius does what it must)
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