Election fraud was largely immaterial to this election. It’s a non-issue from a practical standpoint, though not from a moral, legal or governmental standpoint.
What lost the election for Romney was the fact that conservatives just did not show up to vote for the liberal former-governor of Massachusetts. Voter turnouts were amazingly low among conservatives.
Frankly, Romney’s showing in this election was VERY similar to the response he got back in the last primaries - in the end we nominated the man who couldn’t beat McCain, and surprise, he couldn’t even match the votes that the liberal, leftist old hack McCain received in the national election.
Back in the primaries quite a lot of us predicted that this is just what would happen. A lot of us stridently argued against the irrational and fallacious belief that “you have to nominate a moderate if you want to win! Conservatives aren’t going to get votes!”.
At the end of the day, this just proves that no matter how awful the incumbent liberal democrat is, you’re not going to win the election by giving your conservative voter base a great, big middle-finger and telling them to suck-it-up and vote for the slightly less liberal candidate with a meaningless (R) by his or her name.
“What lost the election for Romney was the fact that conservatives just did not show up to vote for the liberal former-governor of Massachusetts. ....Voter turnouts were amazingly low among conservatives....”
THAT’S NOT TRUE!!....We were not voting Romney, but against Obama....The numbers were there....Obvious voter fraud throughout the country!!....Illegals voting in FL, pollsters thrown out and then Obama gets 100% of the vote, 900 votes counted in a small district where only 7 people were registered....It was on a massive scale.....
The crowd in this video was not even at a planned rally!!...Just before the electon....The numbers were there!.....Republicans/Conservatives are like the blind leading the blind on this issue.....My last post on this crap....As someone said earlier, the fix is in, just prepare yourselves for the inevitable......
I don’t agree, but I suppose it depends on how one defines voter fraud. I do agree that a number of things led to this outcome, and turnout on our side and in the middle needed to be higher. I do think the democrats use the combination of early voting, absentee and loose ID laws to get more votes. I do believe they create registered voters that so not exist and use them to create extra votes. I do believe they provide financial incentives to get people to go to early voting in the big cities. There is plenty of evidence and also lots of anecdotal evidence. Does anyone believe that pockets of Philadelphia, Cleveland, and south Florida have essentially 100% turnouts when the rest of the country does not. Are those area made up of more highly motivated, independent people or are those areas filled with preoe with a lack of motivation and work ethic. Why would people who don’t have work ethic have near unanimous response once every four years. It could be simple get out the vote, but I have a hard time believing after four years of the worst economy of any ones lifetime that they had more motivation to get out to the polls normal. Doesn’t pass the smell test.
I agree. We can’t simply blow off this loss as ‘stolen’ because we have to present a winning platform and candidates to get the votes, and I fully see where Romney was a bad choice and didn’t win the votes he should have. I won’t dismiss the ability for the dems to get their vote out in ways that simply don’t match with their record or campaign message.
1996 Dole 37,816,307 2000 Bush 50,459,211 2004 Bush 59,130,092 2008 McCain 59,948,323 2012 Romney 60,265,579