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To: montanajoe
Folks who support the 2nd Amendment need to come up with solid proposals to keep guns out of the hands of the crazies.

Now there's an idea! Why didn't we think of that? While we're at it, let's keep cars out of the hands of drunk drivers.

How could we do that? Well, let's start by passing laws that prohibit children, criminals and the mentally ill from owning weapons - and let's prohibit drunk driving. Yeh, that should be a good start.

Oh, wait a minute, we already have such laws, as does Mexico.

The Mexican Constitution guarantees the right of Mexicans to possess arms. Even so, gun control laws in Mexico are very strict, and police discretion in enforcement makes possession of firearms of greater than .22 very difficult and risky for normal citizens. As you can read in the papers everyday, strict guns laws in Mexico sure have solved the crime and murder problem there!

Here's an idea: School teachers in Israel are allowed to carry weapons and there hasn't been a school shooting there in decades. p But, I doubt your desire to do away with the 2nd Amendment is swayed by facts. For the record, what other parts of the Constitution would you like to change?

47 posted on 12/14/2012 8:22:12 PM PST by jda ("Righteousness exalts a nation . . .")
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To: jda
I agree with you.

Unfortunately, after today we are in a shrinking minority of Americans.

We can yell and scream about guns don't kill people... or folks supporting the constitution can frame the debate about how to keep crazies from killing 5 year olds with guns.

As of today digging in and doing and saying the same old same old is not going to work ...

54 posted on 12/14/2012 8:42:40 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: jda

Good post. Laws only influence those who have a penchant to be law abiding citizens. Others could care less.

We need to see an objective demographic and religious analysis of those that are most vociferous about hog tying law abiding Americans with more gun control regulations. If it was disproportionately (which it isn’t) mostly American-Irish or American Indians it would be made into an obvious issue.


86 posted on 12/15/2012 5:49:05 AM PST by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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