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1 posted on 01/05/2013 5:07:33 PM PST by i88schwartz
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Ben Franklin testimony against the stamp act.

Q. If the Stamp Act should be repealed, would it induce the assemblies of America to acknowledge the right of Parliament to tax them, and would they erase their resolutions [against the Stamp Act]?

A. No, never.

Q. Is there no means of obliging them to erase those resolutions?

A. None that I know of; they will never do it, unless compelled by force of arms.


Q. Is there a power on earth that can force them to erase them?

A. No power, how great soever, can force men to change their opinions. . . .

Q. What used to be the pride of the Americans?

A. To indulge in the fashions and manufactures of Great Britain.

Q. What is now their pride?

A. To wear their old clothes over again, till they can make new ones.


Benjamin Franklin, Testimony Against the Stamp Act (1766)
2 posted on 01/05/2013 5:14:19 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Amen, Pat!


3 posted on 01/05/2013 5:17:51 PM PST by Wisconsinlady (The only thing to stop a bad person with a gun, is a good person with a gun.)
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With no Second Amendment, Congress could pass a law, as limited as this: banning assault rifles or as sweeping as prohibiting all private firearm ownership and requiring the surrender of all privately held firearms.

Right. Perhaps I missed something, but we do have a Second Amendment and should be no less willing for it to disappear or to be disregarded than any of the others.

So what's the point?

4 posted on 01/05/2013 5:18:10 PM PST by DanMiller (Dan Miller)
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The Administration leaked the outline of its plans to the Washington Post. Obama wants a comprehensive law which he is not likely to get from the House. He no doubt will rage against the Republicans, the NRA and the TEA party and test the constitutional limit of executive orders. This will set an interesting tone for the upcoming debate concerning the debt ceiling.


5 posted on 01/05/2013 5:21:03 PM PST by allendale
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From my cold dead hands....are you listening Obama?


6 posted on 01/05/2013 5:22:07 PM PST by mort56
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Pat Buchanan gets it; John McLaughlin does not. People who are buying up all this hardware and ammo are not planning on turning the over to government thugs and murderers. McLaughlin, understand this and burn it into your East Coast pea brain: If you come to disarm America by confiscating our guns, we will kill you. Molon Labe — if you dare. Remember this, too: Your side is outnumbered more than 230 to 1. Do you still feel froggy? Then jump, frog.
7 posted on 01/05/2013 5:22:19 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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I think it was Levin who said that the Revolutionary War wasn’t fought because the British were wanting us to give up our DEER rifles


8 posted on 01/05/2013 5:23:14 PM PST by Optimist
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What will people like Elinore Clift do when they push too far and things break loose?

Do they understand what they are doing?


9 posted on 01/05/2013 5:23:29 PM PST by jimbobfoster
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There are more AR-15 type rifles in public hands in the last thirty years than 30-30 Winchesters in the last 110 years.


10 posted on 01/05/2013 5:28:24 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (GUNS.. the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.”)
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The British people gave up their guns. The Aussies gave up their guns. Why won't the American people give up their guns?

As long as "The People" are given the unfettered ability to copulate, drink and drug themselves, evacuate their bowels, snore and attend the games there shall be no revolution if guns are seized.

11 posted on 01/05/2013 5:32:01 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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“”MCLAUGHLIN: Baloney! That doesn’t mean you can’t own one, but you have to put it in first and then go try — “”

I have no idea what he was going to say here - “put it in first then go try” what? Pat interrupted him and the sentence was never finished. PUT WHAT WHERE?


14 posted on 01/05/2013 5:48:21 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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There is a totally different mood in the country now than when the assault gun law was passed.

I had four brand new Colt H-Bars plus a few others such as HK-91, Egyptian Maadi, and Chinese Poly-darn can’t remember the rest of the word, but they were one of the best AK styles out there.

I was in grad school and needed money. I literally could not sell them without reducing the price to near wholesale.

Now it is a new world. I noticed two gun sellers near here which had an abundance of AR’s of various makes. I checked them both today and they are all sold out. Nothing like that happened before and there hasn’t even been a law passed.

I will say I loaded up on high capacity mags after the last ban sunset ted. I am not going to be caught short again.


15 posted on 01/05/2013 5:48:30 PM PST by yarddog (One shot one miss.)
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If foreign nationals do not have to comply with our immigration laws, I sure as hell don’t see Americans complying with the Democrats’ “gun control” laws. It just isn’t going to happen.


16 posted on 01/05/2013 5:49:57 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where can I pick up a 2013 Mayan calendar?)
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The fact that they are still talking about gun control, in the face of all the guns purchased - even recently - just tells me that they are going to do something REALLY bad.

They should have backed off by now.


17 posted on 01/05/2013 5:50:41 PM PST by Celerity
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Hey Pat, do me favor, just go away!


18 posted on 01/05/2013 5:51:31 PM PST by Artcore
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21 posted on 01/05/2013 5:55:24 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("More law, less justice." --Cicero)
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"We will NOT disarm"
23 posted on 01/05/2013 6:00:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Real republicans are loyal to the core principles of the republic. www.aprealrepublicans.com)
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No one is going to confiscate weapons. Good grief. The only concern will be the amount of regulation attempted. Thinking there is going to be some horde of military, etc going door to door to take weapons is sheer lunacy.


26 posted on 01/05/2013 6:06:39 PM PST by RIghtwardHo
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In 1933 the Reichstag fire was used as a pretext by Hitler to curtail the rights of German citizens including confiscating privately held fire arms. With the Sandy Hook shooting Obama now has his Reichstag fire.


80 posted on 01/05/2013 7:08:09 PM PST by The Great RJ
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"Buchanan: "There Would Be A Revolution" If Government Confiscated Weapons..."

.... Well I dunno ...... I actually thought that this past Federal Election was the start of the great revolution ... the return to a Constitutionally run government. What did we get after the great cry of FREEDOM was ringing from the voices of all who saw the threat that was facing this nation? ...... We saw too many of those mighty warriors staying at home .... and while they stayed in the comfort of their homes...... the nation fell to the socialists.... the same threat that we have sworn to fight since the birth of this nation.

... In short .... I guess you could say that ..... when they come for our guns ..... HOLY CRAP!!!! We are suddenly mighty warriors for freedom!!!! But when they came for our country ...... too many of us yawned and left the task up to the "Other Guy." And I think we all know who that "Other Guy" is ...... It's anybody else but you.

.... So ... I am sure Pat Buchanan meant well and I admire his exuberance by making that statement. But .... you will have to excuse me if I don't believe that there are enough of us left with a belly for an actual revolution.

.... Yes ... there just may be a lot of noise that is comprised of hot air .... but when the actual fight came ..... I would bet that .... too many would just stay home .... and ... yup ...... leave it up to the "Other Guy" to do all of the dirty work.

93 posted on 01/05/2013 7:31:09 PM PST by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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