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Alabama hostage boy safe, captor dead: Official
NBC News ^ | February 4, 2013 | Erin McClam and Gabe Gutierrez

Posted on 02/04/2013 2:57:57 PM PST by Olog-hai

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To: Road Glide
Thank you for the reply. I wish to address a couple of your points.

First kidnapping has been a federal crime for many years. That is why the FBI was there. It was their job.

Second your point about the military does raise a point. However did you stop to think about the media circus this event became. I can gaurantee there were hundreds, if not thousands, of media personnel involved in this. That creates traffic jams, crowd congestion, and general chaos. Remember this was a small community with little manpower. I would think it was simply overwhelmed in trying to handle the logistics of the situation. So I have to assume they asked for help from the state level and the Governor assigned some National Guard troops to help with crowd management.

While you see a portent of military control in this I would think it is simply one of handling a crowd with available resources. No big conspiracy.

That said I do agree in some part with your concern about militarization of the police in the future. But in my mind this incident was not a part of that.

41 posted on 02/05/2013 5:19:16 AM PST by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

—Very good point. Also, whatever “message” he had for why he did this will be forever buried too. Winners write the history books. Whatever upset him, he sure didn’t handle it very well.—

I don’t want to hear a “message” from a guy that killed a bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old.


42 posted on 02/05/2013 5:32:43 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious")
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To: eyedigress; Road Glide

—Local or state funds did not have this tech.—

Nor do they have the training. And I’m sure if they were to get training, people would be screaming about how they are preparing to attack citizens in their bunker.


43 posted on 02/05/2013 5:38:35 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious")
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America

Who was home-schooled? I’m just wondering as a home-schooler myself.

thanks


44 posted on 02/05/2013 6:55:36 AM PST by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: justice14
I agree. I think we hear too much about the people perpetrating the crimes, and that give other crazy people the idea that if they do something like this, they will be famous. News needs to just give basic info about the agressors, and not glorify them.
45 posted on 02/05/2013 7:05:37 AM PST by spotbust1 (Procrastinators of the world unite . . . . .tomorrow!!!)
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To: justice14
I don’t want to hear a “message” from a guy that killed a bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old.

You know, you're exactly right. Absolutely no argument. I also do not want to hear ANY "message" from the government anymore about anything when they support welfare fraud, illegal immigration, pro-abortion, shipping arms to criminals, gay rights in "...every institution and all walks of life." and forced choices on healthcare which will cause me and my family severe financial duress while leaving us with very little healthcare. The government spends millions in foreign countries on God-knows-what while refusing to fund worthwhile projects here including armed guards in schools.

The government has killed and is going to kill far more people through its policies than Jimmy Lee Dykes in his insanity did. You are exactly right on target about not wanting to hear any message from someone with whom you so vehemently disagree both through violation of governmental and moral law. I applaud you.

P.S. I've been getting my "message" out for YEARS in this forum. The pen IS mightier than the sword.

46 posted on 02/05/2013 7:14:57 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

We aren’t talking about govn’t. I was referring to YOU saying about the kidnappers message. I responded in kind. I was not talking about a government message. In this instance, they did their job and they did it well. If you want to go off about govn’t message then I will address that. But you only mentioned the kidnappers message. I responded.


47 posted on 02/05/2013 7:24:57 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious")
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To: justice14
We aren’t talking about govn’t.

We? I in a round about way, most certainly was. Yes, the government did its job. However, I and others do not like what the government is doing at the present. However you want to address that, go right ahead. I'll try to stay up with you.

48 posted on 02/05/2013 7:50:00 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

In a “round about way”? Of course. How stupid of me. No one likes what the government is doing. You stated about what the guy wanted to “get out”. I said I don’t care to hear what he has to say. You then equated that meaning that I am ok with government. I am not, stop assuming I am.


49 posted on 02/05/2013 7:57:31 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious")
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To: justice14
No assumptions, no problem at all here. In this particular post, in reply #2, is found the solution to those behind this present government who are subverting the constitution and our way of life and using every possible lie, event, etc. to do so.

Click here for article about Ayers.

50 posted on 02/05/2013 8:24:14 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Go for it. Have fun.


51 posted on 02/05/2013 8:26:36 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious")
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To: justice14; All

“I don’t want to hear a “message” from a guy that killed a bus driver and kidnapped a 5 year old.”

Not even if he is saying President Obama is the Messiah and must be given dictatorial powers? Not even if he is demanding legal pedophilia?

If his “message was” Restore the Constitution, it would have been plastered all over the headlines by now.


52 posted on 02/05/2013 11:26:01 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

—Not even if he is saying President Obama is the Messiah and must be given dictatorial powers? Not even if he is demanding legal pedophilia?

If his “message was” Restore the Constitution, it would have been plastered all over the headlines by now.—

No. I don’t put too much stock in anyone who does what He did.


53 posted on 02/05/2013 11:33:36 AM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" // twitter; @rjustice21)
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To: spotbust1

Not sure if true, but some media reported initially that Adam Lanza was pulled out of school by him mom and was then home schooled. True? Don’t know.


54 posted on 02/05/2013 3:03:29 PM PST by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (IMPEACH OBAMA)
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To: Road Glide
Many conservatives don't even see this thing that is right in front of their faces.

I had to tell one of my friends today to STOP and think about why they needed 200+ heavily armed guys from local police, Sheriff's department, state police, US Marshals office, FBI, ATF & local SWAT teams to contain and take down ONE 65-year-old guy. That's not including the helicopters, armored vehicles and the scads of earth-moving equipment.

Freepers sometimes have tunnel vision on the subject, as you saw from some of the replies to your post.

55 posted on 02/05/2013 9:31:16 PM PST by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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