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Store owners say plastic bag ban causes more shoplifting
www.seattlepi.com ^ | Thursday, February 28, 2013 | Casey McNerthney

Posted on 02/28/2013 1:50:46 PM PST by Lonely Bull

When the Seattle City Council unanimously passed a ban on plastic bags and required businesses to charge a nickel for paper bags, city leaders believed it would be better all around.

"I think we've gotten to a place where it's really going to work for the environment, businesses and the community in general," Councilman Mike O'Brien said at the time.

But the bag ban is contributing to thousands of dollars in losses for at least one Seattle grocery store, and questions have been raised about the risk of food-borne illness from reusable bags that shoppers don't often wash.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bag; bags; ban; grocery; owners; plastic; plasticbag; plasticbags; reusable; reusablebag; reusablebags; seattle; shoplift; shoplifting; store; theft
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To: Lonely Bull

From what I’ve heard, the merchants ain’t to happy about these bans, even though they now get to charge a nickel, and in my region even more than that per bag (and the government sets the minimum price, ain’t that grand?) We can all calculate the arithmetic, thank you very much, Captain Obvious, and maybe the stores do make a penny on a bag sold. But they don’t like it, and not only because the shoplifting angle, but because the packing of the customers’ filthy canvas bags significantly slows down the checkstand lines! Extra cashiers, extra costs, D’uh!


41 posted on 02/28/2013 7:05:08 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

“Lousy logic.”

How so? Medium to large size stores are making a killing. The government is not profiting from this.


42 posted on 02/28/2013 10:25:15 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: elkfersupper

“I am sure that the retailers would prefer not to deal with this B.S.

Focus your anger on the perpetrators, not the victims. “

If the retailers preferred not to deal with it, they would have been lobbying against it, organizing against it, etc. They were silent.


43 posted on 02/28/2013 10:26:17 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Lonely Bull

The only advantage to banning plastic bags is that there will no longer be a need to ask “paper or plastic?”.


44 posted on 02/28/2013 10:27:40 PM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: roadcat

There was a columnist that quipped “In Seattle you can still buy an assault rifle, but it is illegal to bag it in a plastic bag.”

Not sure if that was an anti-gun statement, as later on he said “The NRA wants to have an armed guard at schools. Just one?”


45 posted on 02/28/2013 10:32:42 PM PST by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: 21twelve
Not sure if that was an anti-gun statement,

Maybe not. I'd have a hard time passing up such a humorous statement.

46 posted on 02/28/2013 10:41:12 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: upchuck
I've seen some incredibly filthy "reusable" bags being used. I'm surprised the checkers don't insist on wearing rubber gloves.

My wife uses the reusables. She washes them every time despite the added "tax" of using them vs. store-supplied plastic or paper. She tells of some folks who have bags that had meat juice leak on them and they smell like rotten meat - seems like they should be sent packing as a health hazard....

47 posted on 03/01/2013 3:46:02 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Lonely Bull

Reusable bags slow the checkout process considerably.
The clerks hate them as well.
There should be a separate line(s) for those with reusable bags.


48 posted on 03/01/2013 4:04:44 AM PST by Palio di Siena
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To: Palio di Siena
Hang on everyone, I have the solution for keeping reusable bags clean.

Did you guess?? Plastic liners! Ok, I'll go to my room now.
49 posted on 03/01/2013 5:29:20 AM PST by freebird5850 (The only good thing about Barry getting re-elected is now we get to see him fall from a higher place)
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To: Persevero
If the retailers preferred not to deal with it, they would have been lobbying against it, organizing against it, etc. They were silent.

The retailers were busy selling stuff and keeping their shelves stocked.

Why would they either have or make time for this crap?

50 posted on 03/01/2013 5:40:14 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

“The retailers were busy selling stuff and keeping their shelves stocked.

Why would they either have or make time for this crap? “

The small retailers, I can understand your argument. But we have lots of chains. Walgreens, Luckys, Safeway, 7-11, Macys, JCPenney, Target. . . they have armies of attorneys, where were they? No opposition at all.


51 posted on 03/02/2013 3:30:46 PM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: Persevero
The small retailers, I can understand your argument. But we have lots of chains. Walgreens, Luckys, Safeway, 7-11, Macys, JCPenney, Target. . . they have armies of attorneys, where were they? No opposition at all.

They don't care, because they can just pass the cost along to their stupido customers who are buying their crap with other people's money anyway..

52 posted on 03/02/2013 4:34:31 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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