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Great photos of the classic zebra striped and abstract patterns on old ships
1 posted on 03/01/2013 10:59:47 AM PST by Saint X
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I thought one of the big selling points for these new ships was reduced crew size. Now every vessel will need an onboard scenic designer.


2 posted on 03/01/2013 11:08:18 AM PST by ArmstedFragg (hoaxy dopey changey)
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This is what they need:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wlLqdFsMnCE

BAE’s Adaptive Camouflage


3 posted on 03/01/2013 11:08:47 AM PST by BCW (http://babylonscovertwar.com/index.html)
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That looks awesome.

As an old ship modeler, I can confirm that those patterns are beastly hard to paint, especially on the smaller scales. But they make amazing conversation peices when finished.

4 posted on 03/01/2013 11:12:23 AM PST by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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The photos look really interesting. Some seem to make it difficult to say which way the ship is pointing through tricks of perspective, others to perhaps make the ship appear to be some smaller type of craft?


5 posted on 03/01/2013 11:13:26 AM PST by babble-on
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They aren’t actually bringing back the dazzle camoflage.

Dazzle/zebra was not intended to hide the ship, but rather to confuse the viewers ability to judge aspect, which was required for gunnery and torpedo solutions.

The modern paint job probably won’t have any meaningful effect, except in very low light or obscuration situations.


6 posted on 03/01/2013 11:16:57 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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In these days of radar, sonar, infrared tracking, night vision equipment, electronic signal detection, and all the rest why is the Navy using camouflage for their ships? Do the honestly think that someone who really wants to target it will be thrown off by the paint scheme?


7 posted on 03/01/2013 11:17:48 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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I was stationed at a USAF base in West Germany in the late 70’s - early 80’s. I recall the AF experimenting with a form of dazzle camouflage on the taxiways in front of the hardened aircraft shelters. Geometric shapes were painted onto the taxiways, mostly triangles, in the hope that an attacking pilot, flying very low at high speeds, may be distracted by the patterns and drop his bombs on the pavement rather than the shelter. Don’t know if it ever would have worked.


9 posted on 03/01/2013 11:19:33 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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They should plaster sponsor’s logos all over them like NASCAR. It would defray expenses. ;)


10 posted on 03/01/2013 11:19:51 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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Due to sequester, aircraft carriers will look more like this:


11 posted on 03/01/2013 11:28:03 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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12 posted on 03/01/2013 11:29:06 AM PST by RhoTheta ("We're from the Government, and we're here to help you ... NOT")
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U.S.S. Freedom =

Too Small to stand up to bigger ships, too large to be a deterrent to the smaller ones, yet still not big enough for long endurance missions.

U.S. Navy FAIL!!!


13 posted on 03/01/2013 11:30:43 AM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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16 posted on 03/01/2013 11:36:50 AM PST by ASA Vet
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They can paint the LCS’s however they want I still won’t like them. Better to buy Arleigh Burkes, something with weapons. This thing is fast in shallow water, that’s it.


20 posted on 03/01/2013 11:42:13 AM PST by ryan71
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Uh...I see!


23 posted on 03/01/2013 11:49:52 AM PST by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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With the advent of radar camouflage lost much of its usefulness. Now stealth, that’s where it’s at!


24 posted on 03/01/2013 11:50:24 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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Where did this money come from?


25 posted on 03/01/2013 11:52:37 AM PST by onedoug
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Very interesting pictures-Thanks!


26 posted on 03/01/2013 12:19:07 PM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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I think this one is the best design.

29 posted on 03/01/2013 12:47:42 PM PST by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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The USS California shown bombarding Guam in 1944 is the most effective one of the bunch, historic or modern. It could be a small rocky island for all you could tell at a glance with the naked eye.

I suspect this is intended to help foil lower-tech terrorist attacks by small cells using speedboats. It serves no other purpose that I can see, other than jumping on the camo fashion bandwagon.


33 posted on 03/01/2013 3:38:30 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Anybody know what the post-war studies showed for effectiveness of those paint schemes? Seems logical to me that it would’ve been effective against visual targeting by subs or small craft. But was there any data to prove it?


34 posted on 03/01/2013 3:54:08 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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