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DHS use DMV offices to build database with your photo,birth certificate & CCW info (MO)
Missouri Family Network ^ | 3/02/13 | Missouri Family Network

Posted on 03/02/2013 6:12:08 PM PST by listenhillary

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To: listenhillary

Yet, I bet the voter fraud folks like those who used to call themselves ACORN are as outraged as the “Missouri Family Network.”


21 posted on 03/02/2013 10:27:08 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: listenhillary
Driver's licenses and CCWs are both photo id in Idaho and Idaho law enforcement has them cross referenced. My wife is a police dispatcher in Idaho. Part of the information she passes to officers on a wants/warrants check is whether the license number being queried includes a CCW.

Tangentially, I haven't purchased real pseudephed in years. I got pretty sick a few weeks ago and headed into Target in San Diego for some real pseudephed. The pharmacist had to scan the big square data patch on the back of my license and have me sign for the purchase. There is already a standardized scan that works across multiple state boundaries.

22 posted on 03/02/2013 10:54:06 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: listenhillary
I might add for completeness that my original CA driver's license was acquired using my long form birth certificate. That was correlated to my Idaho driver's license when I became an Idaho resident and my Idaho CCW to the Idaho driver's license. The cross references are all available. DHS doesn't really need to do anything special. Just contact the state where you have your license and run with all the cross correlations. The FBI has a cross reference to your name, fingerprints and CCW as well. If you have purchased a firearm, the NICS database has your name, SSN and date of inquiry. Those records are supposed to be destroyed, but they haven't been following the policy. There is no privacy anymore. You would be deluding yourself to think that exists anymore.
23 posted on 03/02/2013 11:00:15 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: sten
RFID tags can be read at 20-30 feet

That is VERY technology dependent. Most passive tags must be placed into an active electromagnetic field at a technology characteristic frequency to pick up enough power to charge up a small capacitor and drive the transmission of the embedded numeric code. Employee ID cards tend to work only within 2 to 4 inches. The ones used in retail stores work at a 3 ft distance, thus you find the transmitter/receiver towers placed on either side of a door.

There are active devices placed on the dashboard of a car for billing of HOV lane use. Those have a 30 ft range, but are very large devices. The transceivers typically are mounted on a road sign platform at 15+ ft above the roadway.

24 posted on 03/02/2013 11:07:53 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: Marie Antoinette

When you renew your drivers license next time, DHS will have that information.

I renewed my driver license in October, and got my laminated ID immediately. So I guess I made it under the wire.


25 posted on 03/03/2013 4:09:33 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: sten

Aluminum foil


26 posted on 03/03/2013 5:01:26 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: Myrddin

In N C the CCW doesn’t have a picture but the info is passed to the police. On a traffic stop the officer asked me if I had a weapon, “ since you have a CCW”


27 posted on 03/03/2013 5:04:14 AM PST by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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To: 3Fingas
The last time I renewed my license (TX), I had to go in and get finger printed. I've never had to do that before.

A friend's kid was a passenger during a traffic stop and the cop wouldn't accept the kid's only ID that listed his dob in connection with his dad's military whatever ID. The kid wasn't driving and wasn't old enough for a license so there was no reason to even speak to him much less harass him. The dad had to go down to the police dept. and have a chat with the chief but still got no satisfaction.

28 posted on 03/03/2013 5:55:36 AM PST by bgill
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To: George from New England
Title 42 Chapter 7 Subchapter IV Section 666

Requirement of statutorily prescribed procedures to improve effectiveness of child support enforcement

(13) Recording of social security numbers in certain family matters.— Procedures requiring that the social security number of— (A) any applicant for a professional license, driver’s license, occupational license, recreational license, or marriage license be recorded on the application; (B) any individual who is subject to a divorce decree, support order, or paternity determination or acknowledgment be placed in the records relating to the matter; and (C) any individual who has died be placed in the records relating to the death and be recorded on the death certificate.

29 posted on 03/03/2013 11:18:15 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Kozak
Sounds like dispatch has the same policy in your area. If CCW and driver's licenses are linked, only one really needs a picture.
30 posted on 03/03/2013 11:28:47 AM PST by Myrddin
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To: Myrddin

Our E-470 tollway has a windshield sticker no bigger than any other RFID and can be read just fine. Highways are now getting all kinds of fancy electronics and I have no doubt that they could read an RFID in your wallet or purse.


31 posted on 03/03/2013 12:00:45 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: TEXOKIE

sorry, WITHOUT a SSN


32 posted on 03/03/2013 1:50:11 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: listenhillary

I just got notification my Texas license expires in April. The letter tells me all the stuff I have to produce. Including proof of citizenship and SS number. It doesn’t tell what will be accepted as “proof” except it says they’ll accept a birth certificate. My only question is “Do Hispanics have to show proof of citizenship?”

You’d think having been licensed in Texas since 1981 would suffice.


33 posted on 03/03/2013 9:07:51 PM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: George from New England

LOL..No prob...thanks for clarification! That makes a little more sense to me now.


34 posted on 03/03/2013 9:33:55 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: sten

“:RFID tags can be read at 20-30 feet

ie: street lights”

NOT if it’s wrapped in aluminum foil ...

Side notes:

1) One helluva field is required at that distance (I know you ppl think this is ALL magic, but, no it’s not. Physics is still applicable e.g. those governing field strengths like the inverse square law that determines field strength.)

2) What is used for ‘backhaul’ of the info to a central point? Someone had to trench in a T1 or fiber, or installed a data transceiver on some commercial or private-carrier frequency ...


35 posted on 03/05/2013 9:42:05 AM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: CodeToad

“Our E-470 tollway has a windshield sticker no bigger than any other RFID and can be read just fine. Highways are now getting all kinds of fancy electronics and I have no doubt that they could read an RFID in your wallet or purse.”

YOU’LL NOTICE those antenna (the Yagis seen at the toll booths pointing down at trafic!) used are in the 900 MHz range.

This a FAR CRY from the 200 kHz ‘coupled fields’ systems used on merchandise (and library books!)

Too many ppl believe in ‘magic’ on this stuff; where are all the board EEs and physicists?


36 posted on 03/05/2013 9:47:18 AM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: _Jim

the street lights with cameras have network connection. the data piggy backs on that. there are other types of sensors on streetlights besides RFID and cameras.

registering the response from an RFID query would take a more sensitive receiver. 20-30 feet isn’t that far when the range of other sensors is compared.

to check, a meter could be created that would make a noise whenever it receives an RFID query. that would be interesting. i wonder if i could build it into my droid (do droids have RFID receivers?).

hmmm....


37 posted on 03/05/2013 10:19:54 AM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: _Jim

“where are all the board EEs and physicists?”

I am both, including RF engineering. While those library book and merchandise stickers operate, as you said, in a coupled field effect, so do the new highway tags. While it takes more energy and a larger antenna to do the job they can still read that itty-bitty RF ID tag.

In fact, the one for my motorcycle is a little fella that is barely visible mounted on the front of the headlight. The sticker is about 1/2” by 2.5”, the chip is about 3mm in diameter and the antenna for it is a few inches long.

So, if the DMV wanted to place a very readable tag in their driver’s license, no problem. Easily done.


38 posted on 03/05/2013 5:05:30 PM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: sten

” the street lights with cameras have network connection. “

Oh bullsh!t.

” registering the response from an RFID query would take a more sensitive receiver. “

EASILY stated pilgrim, a LOT more difficult to actually REALIZE.

See, you DO believe in magic, after all. You just ‘make it up’ and then wish it.

Done.

With you.

Since you have not the least idea of what technology is being employed and the inherent limitations.

Done.

Again.


39 posted on 03/06/2013 2:08:56 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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To: CodeToad

” so do the new highway tags “

Tollway tags, pilgrim.

Pay attention to the discussion.


40 posted on 03/06/2013 2:10:33 PM PST by _Jim (Conspiracy theories are the favored tools of the weak-minded.)
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