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To: sickoflibs
How do they enforce that?

It will start with the usual warning ticket, then escalate to a $100.00 or so fine. Then it gets to a $1000.00 fine, then jail time, then it moves to no knock raids and swat teams.

Making sure of course, it is taught in schools that this is a NO TOLERANCE law.

All in the name of your health and the health of your neighbors. Because YOUR governmnt knows what is good for you.

Tyrants NEVER sleep.

20 posted on 03/07/2013 7:18:28 AM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: unixfox
RE :”It will start with the usual warning ticket, then escalate to a $100.00 or so fine. Then it gets to a $1000.00 fine, then jail time, then it moves to no knock raids and swat teams.
Making sure of course, it is taught in schools that this is a NO TOLERANCE law.
All in the name of your health and the health of your neighbors. Because YOUR governmnt knows what is good for you. “

This is just proposed as of now but ironically the Sandra Day O Connor SCOTUS ruled that same-sex sodomy laws are unconstitutional because they violate ‘right to privacy’ and have no overwhelming positive purpose (a dangerous totally subjective criteria for a court to use.)

Yet notice that smoking in private does NOT have the similar protection.

22 posted on 03/07/2013 7:33:25 AM PST by sickoflibs (Losing to Dems and Obama is not a principle! Its just losing.)
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To: unixfox

The bigger problem is that these initiatives are funded with our own tax money. Which by law can’t be used for lobbying. Federal law...you can’t take $$$ that Congress appropriated to lobby congressman.

http://www.cspnet.com/news/tobacco/articles/cdcs-controversial-tobacco-spending

ATLANTA — The U.S. Inspector General’s office didn’t like what it saw.
So, on June 29, 2012, it issued an “Early Alert” letter to Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). At issue was whether the CDC was illegally using federal funds tied to wellness programs to encourage local communities to adopt a bevy of tobacco restrictions.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 allotted $650 million to carry out clinical and community-based prevention and wellness strategies. The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tabbed the CDC to allocate these funds through an initiative known as the Communities Putting Prevention to Work (CPPW), a two-year project that evolved into the Community Transformation Grant.
The Inspector General’s Office said quarterly grant reports filed by cities and organizations “may reflect inappropriate lobbying activities using CPPW grant funds.”
The letter proceeded to state that CDC-provided information “appear to authorize, or even encourage grantees to use grant funds for impermissible lobbying. Furthermore, grantee activity reports posted online make troubling assertions that, on their face, raise the possibility that … anti-lobbying provisions were violated.” 
The Inspector General Office’s allegation is a serious one. Use of congressional funds in an attempt to enact tobacco regulations is illegal.
Under United States Code Title 18, Section 1913, federal law states that “no part of the money appropriated by any enactment of Congress shall ... be used directly or indirectly to pay ... to influence in any manner a member of Congress, a jurisdiction, or an official of any government, to favor, adopt, or oppose, by vote or otherwise, any legislation, law, ratification, policy, or appropriation …”
Specific Allegations

As an example of stimulus funds potentially going toward lobbying efforts, the inspector general pointed to a graphic-warning-sign ordinance proposed by the Philadelphia Board of Health, which on March 19, 2010, was awarded a $10.4 million CPPW grant. The Philadelphia CPPW Recovery Act Summary reported that the grant would be used in part to “explore new regulations that affect the size, number and placement of tobacco ads in stores and that mandate in-store ads that discourage tobacco use at the point of purchase.”
In other words, the CDC’s own documents acknowledge that CPPW funds were granted to a community intending to use the money for legislative purposes.


52 posted on 03/08/2013 3:37:00 PM PST by Eric Blair 2084 (I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer to drink a bunch of them. Stay thirsty my FRiends)
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