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Gun Measure Looks to Be in Trouble (Senate anti-gun legislation short of 60)
wsj ^ | April 16, 2013, 12:04 p.m. ET

Posted on 04/16/2013 5:24:12 PM PDT by Red Steel

WASHINGTON—A Senate measure to expand background checks for gun buyers teetered on the brink of failure Tuesday as opposition mounted.

Democrats appeared short of the votes needed to pass the bipartisan proposal from Sens. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) and Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) that would broaden background checks to all online and gun-show sales. Currently, only federally licensed dealers are required to conduct checks, which aim to screen for people with criminal and mental-health histories that make them ineligible to buy guns.

With some of the 55 lawmakers who caucus with Democrats in the Senate likely to reject the proposal, the measure would need Republican support to overcome the 60-vote threshold needed to overcome any GOP-led filibuster threat.

"We need some help with the Republicans," Mr. Manchin said after the Democrats' weekly luncheon, which featured impassioned appeals from Mark Kelly, husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, who was gravely injured in a 2011 mass shooting in her home state of Arizona. "We need more than what we have."

Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D., Calif.) also addressed the senators, along with lawmakers from Connecticut, where a shooting at an elementary school in Newtown last December spurred the debate over tougher gun laws.

Among Republicans, only Mr. Toomey and Sens. Mark Kirk of Illinois and Susan Collins of Maine have said they plan to vote for the amendment, while Sen. John McCain (R., Ariz.) has said he is inclined to support it.

In a blow to supporters, Sen. Dean Heller (R., Nev.) said late Tuesday he won't support the amendment. Only Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R., N.H.) and five Democrats have yet to say how they plan to vote on the measure.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: banglist; gunbill; gunbilltrouble; guncontrol; secondamendment

1 posted on 04/16/2013 5:24:12 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Poor Obama, with the Boston bombing and now the Ricin attack on the Senate, nobody, not even his own liberal media is giving any airtime to the Gabby Giffords/Newtown Parents sobfest on parade, which he was counting on to put gun control over the top.
2 posted on 04/16/2013 5:28:00 PM PDT by apillar
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To: Red Steel
'Bammy and Ried will buy or bargain for the votes they need.

It worked so well for Obamacare.

3 posted on 04/16/2013 5:28:35 PM PDT by grobdriver
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To: grobdriver

I agree, they will buy or bribe for the votes they need.

Wouldn’t put it past them to blackmail either.


4 posted on 04/16/2013 5:30:02 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Red Steel

Wobbly Ds will vote for cloture, and then vote against the bill.

IT’ll pass.

Bastards.


5 posted on 04/16/2013 5:30:11 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Leftists favorite Mass Murderer: Kermit Gosnell)
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To: Red Steel

We’re almost into the 2014 election cycle, and senators are going to morph into fanny protection mode pretty quickly here.


6 posted on 04/16/2013 5:32:32 PM PDT by lurk
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To: Red Steel

Looks like another Louisiana Purchase to me.


7 posted on 04/16/2013 5:32:59 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Red Steel

Wait, what?

Some of our elected realized that the bill of rights grants no man anything, but prohibits the government from abridging the citizen’s rights?

Nah, they put their finger in the wind, or somewhere, and became non-commital or something, at least on record.

Just damn. May the rest of this pack of poseurs find a link with vertibrates.


8 posted on 04/16/2013 5:33:10 PM PDT by glock rocks (No, the game never ends, when your whole world depends, on the turn of a friendy card.)
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To: Red Steel

Senators up for re-election in 2014:
AK-Mark Begich-Democrat-
AR-Mark Pryor-Democrat-
CO-Mark Udall-Democrat-
DE-Chris Coons-Democrat-
HI-Brian Schatz-Democrat-(special)
IA-Thomas Harkin-Democrat-(not running)
IL-Richard Durbin-Democrat-
LA-Mary Landrieu-Democrat-
MA-William Mccowan-Democrat-(Kerry Seat)
MI-Carl Levin-Democrat-(not running)
MN-Al Franken-Democrat-
MT-Max Baucus-Democrat-
NC-Kay Hagan-Democrat-
NH-Jeanne Shaheen-Democrat-
NJ-Frank Lautenberg-Democrat-(not running)
NM-Tom Udall-Democrat-
OR-Jeff Merkley-Democrat-
RI-John Reed-Democrat-
SD-Tim Johnson-Democrat-(not running)
VA-Mark Warner-Democrat-
WV-Jay Rockefeller IV-Democrat-(not running)


AL-Jeff Sessions-Republican-
GA-Saxby Chambliss-Republican-(not running)
ID-James Risch-Republican-
KS-Pat Roberts-Republican-
KY-Mitch McConnell-Republican-
ME-Susan Collins-Republican-
MS-Thad Cochran-Republican-
NE-Mike Johanns-Republican-
OK-Jim Inhofe-Republican-
SC-Lindsey Graham-Republican-
SC-Tim Scott-Republican-(special)
TN-Lamar Alexander-Republican-
TX-John Cornyn-Republican-
WY-Michael Enzi-Republican-


9 posted on 04/16/2013 5:33:15 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Red Steel

Perhaps McCain and Omoslem should focus on disarming AL QAEDA and stop persecuting Americans.

How the hell we got stuck with this band of vicious traitors, I’ll never fully comprehend.


10 posted on 04/16/2013 5:38:55 PM PDT by LyinLibs (If victims of islam were more "islamophobic," maybe they'd still be alive.)
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To: Red Steel

The search is on for a lobbyist of Sinator with a boat a few feet bigger than Manchin’s. His yacht is 54 feet, and yielded these 56 or whatever votes. Perhaps you gotta have a 60’ or better yacht to get up to 60 votes. Time will tell...


11 posted on 04/16/2013 5:40:17 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Venturer

Or worse a manufactured crisis just for good measure.


12 posted on 04/16/2013 5:41:24 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Red Steel
The RINO's will cave, under the guise of some meaningless Amendment, saying it "changed their minds".

ALL the Un-Constitutional Legislation that's been passed has NEVER been challenged on it's Constitutionality, and with the corrupt Legal System of Liberal-planted goofy Judges, we will be stuck with such un-Constitutional Legislation (such as Obamacare), because of some tortured legal interpretation to further The Agenda. Just as baby-killing is interpreted as a "woman's Right", Guaranteed Freedoms are being destroyed and The Constitution is being ignored. (The "Commerce Clause" comes to mind as one example of how to Regulate via un-Elected Dictators of Policy).

13 posted on 04/16/2013 6:09:59 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: traditional1

guise=guise


14 posted on 04/16/2013 6:10:52 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Red Steel

I wonder if yesterday’s events in Boston are having an effect on the vote. A nation of responsible citizens whose government can’t protect them in open public spaces would do well to have a healthy skepticism about any kind of gun control measure that’s passed in the name of public safety.


15 posted on 04/16/2013 6:15:14 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("I am the master of my fate ... I am the captain of my soul.")
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To: Red Steel
And I was going to invest in these new Good Citizen .38s.

They are going to corner the market on handguns.


16 posted on 04/16/2013 6:24:15 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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