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Religious Groups Fear Christian Purge From Military
Townhall ^ | 4/30/2013 | Todd Starnes

Posted on 04/30/2013 3:53:52 PM PDT by markomalley

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So according to this Pentagon consultant, religious evangelism "… is sedition and treason."

 

Just.

 

Wow.

 

Honestly, I didn't think the country was going to be this far gone for another 4-5 years. This is fast.

1 posted on 04/30/2013 3:53:52 PM PDT by markomalley
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It’s coming if it’s not already there . . . we have an anti-Christian, anti-Semitic, pagan, and pro-muslim in our White House . . . his handlers have no use for Christianity, which they’ve made obvious by their wholesale endorsement of allowing sodomites to flourish in all the barracks and the muzzling of the chaplains.


2 posted on 04/30/2013 3:59:47 PM PDT by laweeks
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Need a Congressional investigation as to why this organization is advising the Pentagon. Need to fire some three- and four- stars who are allowing this. I don’t care if they end up begging on the streets. The country would be better off without them.


3 posted on 04/30/2013 4:04:45 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: markomalley

Of course they are going to purge the military of Christians. They’re not going to use the military against Muslims.


4 posted on 04/30/2013 4:06:27 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: markomalley

The problem with the speed isn’t the acceleration but the inertia. We’re moving at breakneck speed to pure Communism, and the people are none the wiser. American Idol is still on, Obamaphones are still available, EBT cards can still get you a 40 oz. malt liquor and Wagyu beef. When those things STOP being available, the true inertia of this nation’s descent will be felt as it slams into the wall of Civil War. It’s coming.


5 posted on 04/30/2013 4:06:30 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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“Leaders at all levels must balance constitutional protections for an individual’s free exercise of religion or other personal beliefs and the constitutional prohibition against governmental establishment of religion,” the regulation states.

The problem is that nobody but Congress can violate the 1st Amendment imo. And the only reason that anti-religious expression judges get away with legislating religion-targeted hate "laws" from the bench is because citizens are not taught the difference between legislative and judicial powers.

What am I overlooking?

6 posted on 04/30/2013 4:08:53 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: markomalley

Jesus is the Way and every other way is not the way.
Hope that doesn’t offend you, Mikey.


7 posted on 04/30/2013 4:18:15 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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Easy - if they discriminate against Christians, we sue the tanks off them...


8 posted on 04/30/2013 4:40:48 PM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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Easy - if they discriminate against Christians, we sue the tanks off them...

HELLO Supreme Court!!


9 posted on 04/30/2013 4:41:09 PM PDT by GOPJ (The screed of so-called journalists: 'If it doesn't fit, you must omit.' - - freeper Vigilanteman)
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If they purge faithful Christians from the military, there will be no military: perhaps that is the objective.


10 posted on 04/30/2013 4:48:39 PM PDT by Godwin1
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He said U.S. troops who proselytize are guilty of sedition and treason and should be punished – by the hundreds if necessary – to stave off what he called a “tidal wave of fundamentalists.”

I see what they did here. They've turned centuries of religious freedom into persecution in an extremely short period of time. You're right. This was fast. End times anyone?

11 posted on 04/30/2013 5:04:47 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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I'm not surprised Mikey (what adult man calls himself "Mikey"??) said that he couldn't find "fundamentalist" Moslems. The leftists/Moslems in power are now going pedal to the metal to destroy our country. In order to destroy it, they must destroy the military - iow, turn the military into a tool for tyranny against we the people. Gutting the military of principled Christians is an essential part of this. I agree with markomalley - it's going off the cliff very, very fast.

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12 posted on 04/30/2013 5:25:59 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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There will be a smaller military filled with homosexuals, atheists and Moslems. They will be the tool to finally destroy the country. Or so the so-called president and his handlers hope.


13 posted on 04/30/2013 5:30:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: markomalley

Honestly, I didn’t think the country was going to be this far gone for another 4-5 years. This is fast....

For such a time as this: http://www.patburt.com/


14 posted on 04/30/2013 5:31:25 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ((Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord!))
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They don’t need Christians anymore. They have legions of fierce gays just knocking down the doors of the recruiting stations. Ankles away!

Just. effing. fabulous. Nothing left to do but party like the sun is about to explode.

Bring the troops home. What is left here isn’t worth getting a paper cut for.


15 posted on 04/30/2013 5:52:51 PM PDT by SargeK
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To: little jeremiah

And that is why islam is being pushed in public schools. Soon Christianity will be illegal because it “discriminates”. Wait and see.


16 posted on 04/30/2013 5:56:12 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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“Weinstein spent over three years in the West Wing of the Reagan White House as legal counsel to the White House. He began with an appointment to the Office of Budget Management and was soon named the Committee Management Officer of the much-publicized Iran-Contra Investigation in his capacity as Assistant General Counsel of The White House Office of Administration, Executive Office of the President of the United States.

Weinstein served as the first General Counsel to Texas billionaire and two-time Presidential candidate H. Ross Perot and Perot Systems Corporation and left in 2006 to work full-time on the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF), a nonprofit foundation he founded in March 2006. This foundation was formed as a watchdog organization to protect religious freedom in the military in accordance with Department of Defense Directive 1300.17, Accommodation of Religious Practices Within the Military Services.[4][5] MRFF has been nominated on five separate occasions, spanning four consecutive years, for the Nobel Peace Prize.[6]”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_L._Weinstein

He’s a Jew who hates Christians.


17 posted on 04/30/2013 6:05:12 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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The Pentagon confirmed to Fox News that Christian evangelism is against regulations.

“Religious proselytization is not permitted within the Department of Defense, LCDR Nate Christensen said in a written statement. He declined to say if any chaplains or service members had been prosecuted for such an offense.

This is simply incorrect. The religious rights of service members on their own time is fully protected. The religious rights of those on government time is protected for the most part. For example, one cannot stop in the middle of the assault on Hill 109 and demand a worship service right then and there. Can that soldier say before attacking the hill, "Who wants to pray with me?" He sure can.

And can he say, "You need to believe in Jesus!"? He sure can. The same as anyone in America can at any point in time.

To say otherwise is to say that there is a government prescribed religion to which one must adhere.

From Army Field Manual 4-0, Chapter 13, Religious Support:

Chapter 13

Religious Support

Chaplains, on behalf of the commander, provide and perform religious support (RS) in the Army to ensure the free exercise of religion. Chaplains are obligated to provide for those religious services or practices that they cannot personally perform. Chaplains perform religious support when their actions are in accordance with the tenets or beliefs of their faith group. Chaplain assistants assist the chaplain in providing or performing this religious support.

The First Amendment guarantees every American the right to the free exercise of religion. Title 10 requires the military to ensure that right to military personnel. The Army implements this requirement in AR 165-1. Religious support operations ensure those rights of free exercise of religion to the soldier, family members, and authorized civilians. This includes religious services, rites, sacraments, ordinances, pastoral care, religious education, family life ministry, institutional ministry, professional support to the command and staff, management and administration, religious/humanitarian support, religious support planning/operations and religious support training. Religious support also includes advice to the command on matters of religion, morals, morale, and the coordination with nongovernmental organizations (NGOs) and private voluntary organizations (PVOs), as appropriate. FM 1-05 and JP 1-05 provide detailed discussions of religious support.

FM 1-05 says:

1-4. At every echelon of the force, the chaplaincy is the Army’s primary agency for ensuring the right to free exercise of religion for Soldiers on behalf of the commander. The chaplains and chaplain assistants, from the Chief of Chaplains down to battalion UMTs, fulfill this core and essential responsibility. Based upon the requirements of the operational mission, a Soldier exercises this right in a number of ways to include:

- Worshipping according to one’s faith.
- Seeking religious counsel and care.
- Keeping holy days and observances.
- Participating in rites, sacraments, and ordinances.
- Practicing dietary laws.

One can't "keep observances" such as "witnessing", if one is prevented from doing so. The only way to tell a soldier that he/she can't "keep an observance" of his religion is to force him to follow a different religion.

18 posted on 04/30/2013 6:08:56 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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Obama does not care about the constitution, as we all have already seen. He said he will fundamentally change this country. He's doing just that. Obama choose this man to be a consultant to the Pentagon to develop NEW policies on religious tolerance.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/04/28/Pentagon-Consults-Extremist-Who-Calls-Christians-Monsters-and-Enemies-of-the-Constitution-to-Develop-Religious-Tolerance-Policy

19 posted on 04/30/2013 6:25:22 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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My career as an Army Chaplain says this is not over.

The proper response is prayer and standing to fight.


20 posted on 04/30/2013 6:29:07 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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