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To: Nachum

I spent 20 years in the Air Force and not once experienced proselytization.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 9:31:06 AM PDT by Ben Mugged (The number one enemy of liberalism is reality.)
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To: Ben Mugged

I spent 22 years starting in the Marine Corps and then retiring from the AF. I experienced a couple of cases of proselytization where the individuals did not have enough sense to not press it in the work place or did not know enough to back off when asked. Most of what I saw was well within bounds and offended nobody.

This crap is the result of civilian DoD idiots as well as the overwhelming majority of general officers who are political appointees as well. There are very few real leaders in the higher ranks and way too many who are incompetent at everything other than political ass-kissing. Make no mistake, most of the career line troops, their officers and NCOs know this and know that unconstitutional and illegal orders from these pampered morons should be challenged. Expect suits and challenges to this to be forthcoming.


42 posted on 05/01/2013 9:45:13 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Ben Mugged

“I spent 20 years in the Air Force and not once experienced proselytization.”

And even if you did, would there be a problem? NO!!!

It’s called the First Amendment, and soldiers died for it.


75 posted on 05/01/2013 10:23:39 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Hey Rush, you forgot to tell us when to panic.)
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To: Ben Mugged
I spent 20 years in the Air Force and not once experienced proselytization.

Me neither, but I would be willing to bet that Mr Weinstein's definition of proselytization is a bit broader than yours or mine. Wearing a cross is probably proselytization. Offering a prayer is probably proselytization. Having a physcial chapel on a military post is probably proselytization. Having a Holy Bible available in a hospital room is probably proselytization.

81 posted on 05/01/2013 10:30:04 AM PDT by AzSteven ("War is less costly than servitude, the choice is always between Verdun and Dachau." Jean Dutourd)
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To: Ben Mugged

I on the other hand was shown that I was on the road of destruction and would bust Hell wide open, if I didn’t seek the Savior. By His grace, I received His sweet salvation. I will always be eternally thankful to those men who showed me the truth of faith in Jesus Christ! I spent 24 years in the U.S. Air Force.


91 posted on 05/01/2013 10:37:52 AM PDT by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: Ben Mugged
I spent 20 years in the Air Force and not once experienced proselytization.

No one ever told you about Jesus?

107 posted on 05/01/2013 10:56:27 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Ben Mugged

I am sorry to hear that.


145 posted on 05/01/2013 11:38:53 AM PDT by patriotUSA (Thank you Jesus.)
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To: Ben Mugged
I spent 20 years in the Air Force and not once experienced proselytization.

Dittos.

And even if I had witnessed it, I would have told them it was inappropriate in a workplace and that probably would have been it.

Heck, I even had some pastors in my workplace.

275 posted on 05/01/2013 2:52:24 PM PDT by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Ben Mugged

My time in the Air Force was much shorter, but I didn’t experience anything of the sort either. I did, however, experience being propositioned after work by a guy on my Flight. He invited me to his dorm room, which was across the hall from my own, for a beer, and attempted to talk me into an “encounter”. I quickly left his room, and we never spoke again.


346 posted on 05/01/2013 10:02:30 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Ben Mugged
>>I spent 20 years in the Air Force and not once
>>experienced proselytization.
 
Before or after the Focus On the Family farce shoved its fallible and uninspired foot in the door of the AFAcademy...?
 
http://www.jewsonfirst.org/07b/weinstein_debate.html
 


"...who, being themselves but fallible and uninspired men, have assumed dominion over the faith of others, setting up their own opinions and modes of thinking as the only true and infallible, and as such endeavoring to impose them on others, hath established and maintained false religions over the greatest part of the world, and through all time;
 
...
 
 that it is time enough for the rightful purposes of civil government, for its officers to interfere when principles break out into overt acts against peace and good order; and finally, that truth is great and will prevail if left to herself, that she is the proper and sufficient antagonist to error, and has nothing to fear from the conflict, unless by human interposition disarmed of her natural weapons, free argument and debate, errors ceasing to be dangerous when it is permitted freely to contradict them. "
 
"I HAVE SWORN UPON THE ALTAR OF GOD ETERNAL HOSTILITY TO EVERY FORM OF TYRANNY OVER THE MIND OF MAN"
--The Virginia Act For Establishing Religious Freedom
--Thomas Jefferson, 1786
 

375 posted on 05/02/2013 5:33:43 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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