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Who lost Texas — and Kansas and Missouri and 30-some other states?
The Hill ^ | 05/06/13 10:32 AM ET | Bernie Quigley

Posted on 05/06/2013 7:20:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Raising the bar on glib, even for the Eloi at The Washington Post, former Post reporter Thomas E. Ricks includes Texas as one of the newspaper's “things to toss out” this year, along with flip-flops and Ben Bernanke.

“For decades, Texans have been clamoring about leaving the Union,” he writes. “Letting the Lone Star State secede would set a bad precedent. (See the Civil War of 1861 to 1865.) But what about expelling it instead? There is promise in that.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: expel; kansas; secede; texas
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To: Texas Fossil

Kansas and South Carolina will be made an example, they are defying the Feds by making laws against Obamacare and gun control.

The real war will be all about supremacy, it will be a race to establish supremacy on both sides.

We The People defy the Federal Supremacy.


41 posted on 05/07/2013 5:13:28 AM PDT by Spartan302 (Spartans never quit, they come back later with more warriors.)
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To: ModelBreaker

Like I said, if TX were to go, it would not be alone. LA & MS would be a part of that.

But Texas will not go, but it is time to reign in a Rogue Fed Gov and punish those who are destroying the nation. This is not the time for division, but a time to stand together. ComDems excluded.


42 posted on 05/07/2013 5:17:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil
I'm am an enthusiastic...in fact,an almost fanatical...supporter of secession.Let the "blue" states (should be "red" because it's always been the color of the left) print all the EBT cards and SSDI checks.Let them annex Mexico as one of their states.Let them legalize marriage between 10 humans,12 barn yard animals and a house plant.Include me out.I'll move to NC,GA or TN.We'll take the farmlands of the Midwest (most of it at least) and the oil of TX,OK,AK and ND.They can have Newark...Detroit...and Malibu.

I'm as serious as a heart attack,boys and girls.

43 posted on 05/07/2013 5:25:56 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: zerosix; KC_Lion

Are you both from Western KS?

I worked for a company in KS (outside of KS City) for almost 15 years years. At one point I traveled 14 states for them. There is a big cultural divide within KS. The western part of the state is largely agricultural and ranching and extremely independent indeed. There are some places in western KS that outsiders are best advised to not ask too many questions about the locals. (Posse Comitatus)

I always felt welcome in that part of KS. Most of the eastern part of the state was like that too, when you got outside the cities.

There is a general dislike in “some” parts of KS for all things about TX. The AG area is an exception.

I have bought seed from K State several times and they were always nice people to deal with. It has changed somewhat since they partnered with Agra Pro (Syngenta). I have not done business with them since that happened. We had the same experience with TX A&M after they partnered with Agra Pro. We partnered with OK State when all that began to take place and are very happy with that relationship. It is funny how some things you do not plan actually work out to be a blessing.


44 posted on 05/07/2013 5:31:56 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Gay State Conservative
I totally understand your feelings. If we expelled the Socialist Slave States they would soon starve like the Jamestown Colony.

Detachment from reality is a fatal flaw of the Pseudo Intellectual Left.

45 posted on 05/07/2013 5:35:13 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Texas is changing rapidly and is well underway to go the way of California in our lifetimes.”

Data shows that Republicans have held the governorship for 26 of the past 34 years. How is that going the way of California?

Rats held the Texas governorship for 100 straight years prior to 1979. It looks like democrats no longer control the state legislature.


46 posted on 05/07/2013 5:51:32 AM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Texas Fossil; zerosix
I am From Eastern Kansas (Kansas City to be precise)

Though truth be told, I have only been in Western Kansas A Few Times.

Most of my out of town experiences have been in Missouri.

If you want a long, bitter cultural divide, the one between Kansas and Missouri can fill volumes.

47 posted on 05/07/2013 5:57:32 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: sergeantdave

And California was the state of Nixon and Reagan... before it suddenly flipped to what it is today.

The Texas of today... is NOTHING like the Texas of my youth, you would of had to of lived here your whole life to notice the changes.


48 posted on 05/07/2013 6:06:47 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: KC_Lion

Yes, I am aware of that divide.

I also spent a lot of time in MO.

MO also has the cultural divide between the AG areas and the cities. Especially Kansas City, MO.

Rush Limbaugh is from Cape Gerado, MO. He has contributed some powerful stuff to the movement to retain our freedom. (yes, he has an ego) Read years ago that his father was a Judge there.


49 posted on 05/07/2013 6:19:40 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

“Letting the Lone Star State secede would set a bad precedent. (See the Civil War of 1861 to 1865.)”

Well, it would indeed set a precedent. In the past when states wanted to sucede the central government waged war on them. (See the War of Northern Agression of 1861 to 1865.)

Letting a state withdraw in peace would certainly be a change, but one big-central-government advocates would have a hard time accepting.


50 posted on 05/07/2013 6:23:27 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Texas Fossil
Texas is not where you were born, but a State of Heart, Mind and Attitude.

Spot on. I've been a naturalized Texan for almost 30 years.

51 posted on 05/07/2013 6:23:57 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Now we’re talking. America needs to purge Neo Europa.

America must kick out all the Yankees, everything from New York north and east must go. If Pennsylvania and New Jersey want to join those kicked out, so be it.

The Americans left behind in Neo Europa can move south or west into America.

To hell with the Yankees...... kick them out, Now!


52 posted on 05/07/2013 6:37:12 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....History is a process, not an event)
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To: KC_Lion
I'm from just across the State Lime, on the KS side.

I have been to western KS but usually traveling through to CO!

53 posted on 05/07/2013 7:12:38 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: zerosix

Oops, should be State Line! One mile across State Line to be precise!


54 posted on 05/07/2013 7:35:31 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: SharpRightTurn

The “Journalista” is speaking out his A. He has no authority, but it exposes how badly the Left hates US.

You are correct, the Fed Gov will never allow any part of US to leave without a fight. It would diminish their power and of course the productive would no longer contribute to the leach class.


55 posted on 05/07/2013 8:19:43 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“And California was the state of Nixon and Reagan... “

That was 50 years ago. I’m looking at trends today. Texas is trending conservative from the data I see. Texas of your youth looks like it was a rat state.


56 posted on 05/07/2013 2:59:41 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: sergeantdave
I don’t think you understand the South much.

People in Texas were originally Democrats because of the civil war. Republicans were the party of Lincoln, and thus there was a grudge against them here with many (as in much of the South). Conservatives that voted Democrat were called “yellow dog” democrats because they would rather vote for a yellow dog than a Republican.

Starting about the time of Reagan though (with the Texan Bush senior on the ticket), Texas started looking past the civil war issues and started moving towards the Republican party.

So to an outsider it is sort of confusing, and on the surface it looks like Texas has been moving right for decades, when in fact it was just a party realignment. Under the surface Texas is MUCH MUCH more liberal than it was when I was a child.

57 posted on 05/07/2013 3:15:26 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

“Under the surface Texas is MUCH MUCH more liberal than it was when I was a child.”

Okay, according to you, you’re screwed. Good luck. Don’t call me; I’ll call you.


58 posted on 05/07/2013 3:55:03 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: sergeantdave

The other underlying issue is the Hispanic population in Texas which is skyrocketing


59 posted on 05/07/2013 6:08:02 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Texas Fossil
I hail from the Eastern side of KS and do know what you refer to, i.e. Eastern KS vs Western KS.

In my opinion, Eastern KS representatives, mostly in the KS Senate, were very greedy when Western KS was pumping oil in the 1970s and getting lots of money so the RINOs teamed up with the, who else, DimocRATS, and determined to get some of that "stash" themselves. Western KS got even by attaching the monies paid into KS schools for a "level plan" which gave equal amount per student regardless of area costs, salaries, etc.

Western KS school districts became so cash flush, that they were giving turkeys, hams and beef rib roasts out at Thanksgiving AND Christmas to all employees!

Conservatives, like myself, in Eastern KS never were in bed with the RINOs and never desired the tax dollars from Western KS but rather are in favor of keeping State taxes low, letting local counties and communities decide what their actual needs are and tax accordingly.

As to "sharing the wealth" of any windfall profits, that is left to the local communities NOT the province of the State, aka Marxist/Socialist Utopia!

60 posted on 05/08/2013 7:28:29 AM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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