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Five things you should know about Turkey and the Istanbul protests
Telegraph ^ | June 3, 2013 | Ruth Sherlock

Posted on 06/04/2013 8:59:08 AM PDT by nuconvert

1. Turkey's political ideology

Since the 1920s Turkey has been vigorously secular in its public sphere. Now protestors accuse Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of blurring the line between religion and state by trying to impose the Islamist values of his Justice and Development party (AKP) on society as a whole.

Last month the government introduced a new law cracking down on alcohol, banning the sale of drink between 10pm and 6am and forcing restaurants near schools or mosques to be dry.

The government has also tried to clamp down on kissing in public. Some have also perceived a state recommendation that everyone should have three children as too invasive.

The spark for the demonstrations was opposition to a government plan to turn Gezi Park, the last green area in Istanbul’s Taksim Square into a replication of an Ottoman style military barracks and possibly a shopping mall.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
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1 posted on 06/04/2013 8:59:08 AM PDT by nuconvert
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It’s so predictable to anyone with common sense. Obama’s “Arab Spring” is radicalizing the entire Middle East (I mean, compared to before). Moderate ones like Turkey will become increasingly strict and fanatical. The Muslim Brotherhood is benefitting and either Obama doesn’t know it, or he does.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 9:03:49 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: nuconvert

It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. [Robert A. Heinlein, Postscript to Revolt in 2100]


3 posted on 06/04/2013 9:04:45 AM PDT by Red Badger (Want to be surprised? Google your own name......Want to have fun? Google your friend's names........)
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To: nuconvert

6. They are NOT about some locals getting P.O.-ed at Erdogan for taking away their favorite park to build a mall (as was widely reported in the Low Information Media)


4 posted on 06/04/2013 9:06:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: nuconvert

On the home front, DOJ has warned us that criticism of Islam or Muslims on social media may a punishable offense, yet we don’t riot.

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2013/05/doj-social-media-posts-trashing-muslims-may-violate-civil-rights/


5 posted on 06/04/2013 9:07:46 AM PDT by DBrow
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There are no riots as Americans through the widespread philosophy of reducing ones life to eating, drinking, drugging, copulating, a good bowel movement and attending “The Games.” In short people do not care as to their governance.


6 posted on 06/04/2013 9:12:05 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: nuconvert
As soon as Erdogan can get the demonstrations calmed down, the police will start picking up opposition leaders and others who were prominent in the demonstrations. People will be hauled away in the night for reeducation or worse. Their protection is staying in the street with large crowds as long as they can.
7 posted on 06/04/2013 9:16:30 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: nuconvert

It seems to me that the ME is fast becoming what we used to call a TARGET-RICH environment.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 9:18:40 AM PDT by Flintlock ("The British are coming--to TAKE OUR GUNS"--Paul Revere)
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To: Truth29

They have already arrested busloads of protesters.
And yes, they will come after others when the msm isn’t looking.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 9:18:44 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Correct


10 posted on 06/04/2013 9:19:17 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: nuconvert

Very informative article. I didn’t know what these protest were about but I do now.


11 posted on 06/04/2013 9:21:32 AM PDT by McGruff (I can't speak to the law here. The law is irrelevant,)
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To: Red Badger
It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so, and will follow it by suppressing opposition, subverting all education to seize early the minds of the young, and by killing, locking up, or driving underground all heretics. [Robert A. Heinlein, Postscript to Revolt in 2100]

And the religion of the USA here in 2013 is Socialism.

12 posted on 06/04/2013 9:23:29 AM PDT by expat2
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To: nuconvert
Erdoğan Over the Edge

The author is Claire Berlinski, a brave American journalist who lives in Istanbul.

Her writing is vividly detailed and paints a realistic picture of what the protestors have faced over the last few days in particular.

Gut wrenching.

13 posted on 06/04/2013 3:32:07 PM PDT by joygrace
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Actually, this is secular Turkey rising up against Islamism. It’s the opposite.


14 posted on 06/04/2013 3:34:39 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: nuconvert
Erdoğan Over the Edge

More direct link to article.

15 posted on 06/04/2013 3:34:57 PM PDT by joygrace
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To: Telepathic Intruder

This is about people trying to prevent Islamic radicalism from taking over their lives...the total opposite of the Arab Spring......


16 posted on 06/04/2013 3:39:17 PM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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And why do they suddenly have to prevent it in the first place? They didn’t before.


17 posted on 06/05/2013 1:35:27 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: joygrace

I’m familiar with Claire. Thanks for the link.


18 posted on 06/05/2013 5:29:50 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Because Erdogan is drunk on power...


19 posted on 06/05/2013 7:19:29 AM PDT by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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Or maybe it’s part of a pattern. The Muslim Brotherhood and its affiliates are gaining power and influence in the Mid East due to Obama’s foreign policies. They are now entrenched in the governments of Libya and Egypt as a result, and soon maybe Syria. We’re not going to see all the underlying causes and effects connecting one event to another, of course, mostly because of our politically corrected media. But we can see a general theme, which at some point the law of averages makes unlikely as being isolated incidents. When the Mid East blows up in our face, will the real reason for it be lost because no one can connect the dots?


20 posted on 06/05/2013 8:41:53 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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