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Syrian war widens Sunni-Shia schism as foreign jihadis join fight for shrines
Guardian News ^ | 4 June 2013 | Mona Mahmood, and Martin Chulov

Posted on 06/04/2013 7:19:40 PM PDT by george76

Syrian rebels say they respect all holy sites but damage to Sayyida Zeinab shrine has spurred 10,000 Shias to volunteer.

Not long after a friend called from Damascus to tell him one of the holiest shrines in Shia Islam had been damaged by Syrian rebels, Baghdad student Ammar Sadiq was on the move.

Raging with a desire for vengeance, the 21-year-old set off for the border, a six-hour drive through Iraq's western deserts. He was one more jihadist on a road to war, a well-trodden path through lands that not long ago were used by jihadists coming the other way. When he got to Syria, however, he did not plan to join the Sunni insurgents now blazing through the north, but the equally vehement Shia groups defending the capital.

"It was like a thunderbolt hit me," said Sadiq. "My friend was telling me that wahhabis from Saudi and Afghanis were trying to destroy the [Shia] shrine of Sayyida Zeinab.

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Whatever their motivations, the undeniable outcome is that both sides are now in open war across an ancient sectarian faultline in place since the schism in Islam emerged nearly 1,400 years ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; israel; jihad; muslims; obamaspeople; rop; russia; saudiarabia; shia; shiamuslims; sunni; syria; terrorism; threatmatrix; trop; wahabi; wahabisunni; waronterror

1 posted on 06/04/2013 7:19:40 PM PDT by george76
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To: george76

1,300 year old emantlities in teh 12st century.

How anyone thinks they will ever “co-exist” is astounding.


2 posted on 06/04/2013 7:22:00 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: george76

that may be true, but they fight as one against the USA, and that’s a fact.


3 posted on 06/04/2013 7:23:14 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, it’s like watching the counter reformation or the Thirty Years war in living color. Imagine going to war because of a religious schism. Nuts!


4 posted on 06/04/2013 7:24:22 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Amberdawn

can’t we give guns to both?


5 posted on 06/04/2013 7:34:02 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: george76
Muslims killing muslims - they don't get along with anyone!

"The moment you join the brigade, you have to join the Syrian government army," he said. "You have to fight with President Bashar al-Assad before you fight for [the brigade]. The Syrian army will tell you that you have to know that you are protecting Syria, not only the shrine."

Then comes a trip to a boot camp in Iran. "You have to enrol on a 45-day training course in Iran to be specialised in using a specific weapon like rocket launchers, Kalashnikov, sniper rifle or RPGs [rocket-propelled grenades]. After the course, you will be handed over to an Iranian middleman who will take you to Syria to join the brigade."

Didn't Patton have a good thought on this?

"If you go to Syria, you have one choice only, which is to die," Murthada said. "You stay for two or three months and come home for two months. Then you return."

6 posted on 06/04/2013 7:45:56 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: george76

The Syrian civil war is complex and bizarre. Perhaps if McCain has completed his photo-ops, he can explain clearly and precisely why he thinks Americans should be involved in this war initially giving “aid” and no doubt later shedding blood. Just what is the critical American interest? Whatever side wins will hate the United States and be hostile to Israel.


7 posted on 06/04/2013 7:48:32 PM PDT by allendale
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To: george76

PopCORNNNN, get your popcorn heyah! Three bags for the price of two! Popcorn!


8 posted on 06/04/2013 7:51:46 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: george76

Psst. Shiate, that Sunni called you a faggot.
Psst. Sunni, that Shiate called you camel dung.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 8:03:04 PM PDT by DManA
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To: BenLurkin; LucyT; thouworm; maggief; Myrddin; shibumi; Hardraade; Candor7; Absolutely Nobama; ...
We need to stay as far away from this as is humanly possible...mccain notwithstanding.


10 posted on 06/04/2013 8:27:20 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: george76

“Saudi Arabia is now formally in charge of the Syria issue,” said a senior rebel military commander in one of northern Syria’s border provinces where Qatar has until now been the main supplier of arms to those fighting President Bashar Assad.

The outcome, many Syrian opposition leaders hope, could strengthen them in both negotiations and on the battlefield – while hampering some of the anti-Western Islamist hard-liners in their ranks whom they say Qatar has been helping with weaponry.”
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Jun-03/219212-saudi-arabia-edges-out-qatar-for-control-over-syrian-rebel-support.ashx#ixzz2VJG11fOd

I believe the ultimate goal is to balkinize Syria just as was done in Yugoslavia which was where the muslims got a whole state, (stolen from the Serbs who were blamed for massive genocide), handed to them. The Sauds want a Sunni state in Syria and they usually get what they want...


11 posted on 06/04/2013 8:43:16 PM PDT by bronxville (Margaret Sanger - “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population,Â)
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To: george76

Murderous, maniacal muzzies lining up for their one-way Paradise boner pills .....
It don’t get much better than that.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 9:28:28 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: george76

Oh Horse=feathers. Every building in the Mideast is used to justify widening the various Mideast conflicts under the guise of being “holy” sites/mosques. Islam is full half wit children.


13 posted on 06/04/2013 9:29:21 PM PDT by Forty-Niner ( the barely bare, berry bear formally known as Ursus Arctos Horibilis...Hear me roar!)
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To: george76

Sunni or later Shiite happens.


14 posted on 06/04/2013 10:58:44 PM PDT by spokeshave (The only people better off today than 4 years ago are the Prisoners at Guantanamo.)
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To: allendale
There are three wars going on...in the North the Kurds, (I think it's the Kurds) are also fighting to gain their independence from the Turks....

The International community should stay out...and certainly the USA.

I'll guarantee you the USA will be blamed either way this goes...it always is. Moslems will never.. ever.. blame each other though they continue to fight their age old battles amongst themselves.

I say let them battle....for the Battle with Iran appears to stand in the balance one way or another for whatever happens in Syria.

15 posted on 06/04/2013 11:09:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: bronxville

They haven’t a clue who is in charge...nor who is firing on who for what reason....to those in the field the “battle” is what they love...and what feeds their twisted and perverted minds...all they want from other countries is the armament to keep on fighting.


16 posted on 06/04/2013 11:13:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: DIRTYSECRET

You mean, can’t we SELL guns to both!


17 posted on 06/05/2013 3:16:16 AM PDT by tanuki (Left-wing Revolution: show biz for boring people.)
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18 posted on 06/05/2013 5:31:38 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do !)
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To: george76

The Syrian war is not a widening of the Sunni-Shia schism, it is no more and no less a mere expression of how wide it is today, fueled by radical fundamentalists and their state-sponsors on both sides - the radical fundamentalist Shia theocrats in Iran and the radical fundamentalist Wahabi-Sunni of Saudi Arabia and their philosophical allies in the MB.


19 posted on 06/05/2013 10:44:38 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: george76

Obama is a Sunni, who is he going to support now?


20 posted on 06/05/2013 12:41:00 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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