Posted on 06/27/2013 5:17:59 PM PDT by kronos77
The Obama administration allowed the National Security Agency to gather Americans’ Internet information, including emails, until 2011 under a secret program launched by President George W. Bush, according to newly leaked documents.
The data collection was first reported by the Guardian newspaper. An official confirmed its existence to the Associated Press.
The NSA ended the program that collected email logs and timing, but not content, in 2011 because it did not do what was needed to stop terrorist attacks, according to the NSA's director. Gen. Keith Alexander, who also heads the U.S. Cyber Command, said all data was purged at that time.
The Guardian Thursday released documents detailing the collection, although the program was also described earlier this month by The Washington Post.
The Guardian said that according to secret documents it had obtained, a federal judge sitting on the FISA court, a secret surveillance panel, would approve a collection order for Internet metadata every 90 days.
It added the records collection began during the Bush administration under a wide-ranging warrantless surveillance program known by the NSA codename Stellar Wind.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/27/obama-administration-allowed-nsa-to-gather-americans-internet-data-until-2011/#ixzz2XSvRfj00
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So it’s still all Bush’s fault?
FIXED!!
Well, I guess the NSA will have to mothball their MASSIVE, nuclear bomb-proof facility in Utah now.. :(
But wait, they weren’t recording emails. I’ve been assured of that.
This has to be in inaccurate report. /s
Sure Obama, and Bush was the guy at fault for gun-runner too.
LOL, this administration hasn’t taken ownership for anything since January 2009. How did this lout get re-elected anyway?
He claims he’s officially done nothing for 4.5 years.
Only the part where he established the DHS, authorized the Patriot Act, dubbed islam 'The Religion of Peace," encouraged the border to be flooded by Mexicans instead of stopping it -- while supporting an Amnesty.
Beyond that, 0dinga has tripled down on all of the above. I'd call that a LOSE-LOSE.
Bush had a lot of help doing all those things. We can thank virtually every person in federal elective office in 2001.
I’ve been participating in the Oregon Citizens Lobby watching the legislative session & trying to run interference on bad bills. I swear that gaining office of any kind makes human beings go mad. There’s just no telling what they’ll do.
“.... NSA ended the program that collected email logs and timing, but not content, in 2011”
LOL!!!! How freakin stupid do they think we are?
They threw out all the so called “metadata” but, they kept the content?
There is no way that statement is believable.
What is astonishing is they now admit they do, in fact, surveil actual content.
There is no way they kept the content but not the data about the source of origination, the header/footer and how the information was routed.
Defies logic.
They would need all that information otherwise the content is irrelevant, since they could not prove origination and termination as well the parties involved.
So much trope
Come now. That was then.
“We’re waaayyyy beyond birthdays now.” “Patriot Games”
Do you really expect me to believe that it stopped in 2011?
Impeachment File on “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
Impeachment File on “B. Hussein Obama,” formerly known as Barry Soetoro, a Legal Citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
I believe Snowden will have the last word on that one.
.....because it did not do what was needed to stop terrorist attacks,
Strange. Did they not just tell us that the reason they did the spying was to stop terrorism ? In fact we are still being told these spying programs will stop more 911's.
I don't think I've ever seen so much BS in one paragraph
I suppose you could read it that way given the awkward ambiguous language, but then that would not make sense in the context of the rest of the article and so would be a mistake to take it that way. They didn't "keep the content," they never collected content but only collected metadata. The author is actually trying to say the program collected only metadata - not content. And the author is saying the program of metadata collection ended in 2011 and the metadata collected thus far was purged... but later adds that it can resume collecting new metadata under FISA court permissions.
There is no way that statement is believable.
That's because you misread it. [Which may be just fine as far as the editor is concerned.]
What is astonishing is they now admit they do, in fact, surveil actual content.
No the article does NOT say that at all. Quite the opposite... it says they collected everything except content.
There is no way they kept the content but not the data about the source of origination, the header/footer and how the information was routed.
That is correct, they did not keep the content at all...the article says they were only collecting metadata all along.
Defies logic. They would need all that information otherwise the content is irrelevant, since they could not prove origination and termination as well the parties involved.
They did not collect content.
Sure and they didn’t unmask Flynn or any number of Americans.
In any case you are wrong.
They do collect content and so called meta data.
I wrote a lengthy article or two on this subject.
But, don’t take my word for it.
Let’s go to a source who also writes on the subject.
Just click on any article link, which will take you to EFF:
https://www.google.com/search?q=electronic+frontier+foundation+government+collect+data+content&oq=electronic+frontier+foundation+government+collect+data+content&aqs=chrome..69i57.28762j0j4&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
In this case, I’d say Bush, his team and the federal “judge” in the whacko FISA court who repeatedly approved surveillance on everyone in the country.
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