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Weight loss does not lower heart disease risk, says 11-year study
DNA ^ | Tuesday, June 25, 2013 | ANI

Posted on 06/27/2013 10:23:20 PM PDT by Jyotishi

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1 posted on 06/27/2013 10:23:20 PM PDT by Jyotishi
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To: Jyotishi

Any excuse not to lose weight. Great.


2 posted on 06/27/2013 10:26:54 PM PDT by Hildy (Falling down is how you grow. Staying down is how you die.)
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To: Jyotishi

Anyone remember Lysenko the “scientist”?
Anyone knows a really fat person who lived into his 80s?


3 posted on 06/27/2013 10:27:23 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: Jyotishi

Eat foods that are right for your blood type and it’ll reduce the stroke probability.


4 posted on 06/27/2013 10:27:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Hildy

And I saw an article on FR about a possible cure for diabetes! We’re in the clear! Time to pig out!


5 posted on 06/27/2013 10:28:02 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Jack Hydrazine

There’s a list of foods that are proven to be good for different blood types?


6 posted on 06/27/2013 10:33:25 PM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: Hildy

The headline is misleading, right? The weight loss only applies to people with diabetes.


7 posted on 06/27/2013 10:34:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Sounds to me like they can’t make up their minds if weight loss is good or not.


8 posted on 06/27/2013 10:37:36 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: wastedyears

There’s a book called, “Eat Right 4 Your Type” by Dr. Peter D’Adamo with the list of foods that work well with each blood type. There is a companion book called, “Cook Right 4 Your Type,” also.

Companion website that lists those foods and types.
http://www.dadamo.com/

I’m pretty sensitive to foods and I can verify for my blood type that it is 100% accurate. The others I can’t say yea or nay.


9 posted on 06/27/2013 10:42:57 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (IÂ’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jyotishi

Here they go again, changing all the rules. Any time now they’ll determine that smoking is good for you. They’ve already found that moderate drinking reduces risk of heart disease, unless they’re changing that again too.


10 posted on 06/27/2013 10:43:27 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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To: Jyotishi

I don’t buy it.

My dad’s side of family dad, uncle, Grandmother and even my younger brother had/have type II diabetes, all overweight, all eat lost of the wrong foods, and I know for a fact that losing weight AND KEEPING IT OFF makes big difference.

They get very destructive symptoms when their blood sugar rises which raises their weight.

The problem is they crave eating crap and then yo-yo diet and that is what kills them faster.


11 posted on 06/27/2013 10:44:04 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: cunning_fish

Define fat.

Obese, no. But over weight? yes many older people I know in their 70s and 80s got about 10 to 20 extra pounds or even more. I had a tiny grand mom who died of an aneurism at 70 and a pudgy grand mom who lived to be 9O and died of natural causes; she got a bad case of influenza and never recovered.


12 posted on 06/27/2013 10:46:53 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: sickoflibs

yo yo dieting screws up your metabolism but it does not hurt your heart like every one used to say.


13 posted on 06/27/2013 10:49:41 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: sickoflibs

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/story/2012-08-15/yo-yo-dieting/57077262/1


14 posted on 06/27/2013 10:51:06 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: nickcarraway

Do Lifestyle Changes Reduce Serious Outcomes in Diabetes?

Hertzel C. Gerstein, M.D.
The New England Journal of Medicine
June 24, 2013 DOI: 10.1056/NEJMe1306987

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMe1306987


15 posted on 06/27/2013 10:54:42 PM PDT by Jyotishi (Seeking the truth, a fact at a time.)
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RE :”yo yo dieting screws up your metabolism but it does not hurt your heart like every one used to say.”

My dad was type 2 and yo-yoed because of diabetic symptoms (sores that dont heal and other nasty stuff) and a heart attack took him at 59 just after the diet cycle.

His brother did the same and got his bad stroke after he lost weight, years after a heart attack..

Obviously there is no one simple cause as its all connected.

16 posted on 06/27/2013 10:55:44 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Jyotishi

Gubmint grant money involved?


17 posted on 06/27/2013 10:56:28 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: nickcarraway
The headline is misleading, right?

Might be on many levels. Besides the focus on Diabetes, the study further doesn't seem to address the effect of chronic obesity, only recent weight loss. IOW, do they really mean to imply that a fit person has the same risk factors as a heavy one? Their results could simply mean the damage to their subjects was already done, not that there's no difference in the CV health of different body types.

This reminds me of a Tom Edison quote I once ran across; it went something like: I hate scientists. You ask them a simple question, they fill a blackboard with X's and Y's and give you the wrong answer.

18 posted on 06/27/2013 11:03:18 PM PDT by stormhill (Guns Save Lives!)
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To: cunning_fish

My father in law is 82 and at least 100 pounds overweight. Low cholesterol too and lives on his own. His weight does inhibit his lifestyle though he manages to get to Perkins every day for breakfast. Errgghh!

Also, there’s a guy I know that is about 300 lbs. and smokes a big, fat cigar everyday at my mom’s AL. He sits in the bright sun everyday tanning and is 90.

My very fit, healthy dad that did tri-athalons at 77 died of brain cancer. He was lean, all muscle mass, and ate very healthfully.

I see all kinds of fat elders at my mom’s AL, mostly women. I’d guesstimate they’re in their 80’s.

Generalities don’t always hold true.


19 posted on 06/27/2013 11:09:29 PM PDT by mplsconservative (Barack Hussein 0bama has American blood on HIS hands!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

It’s my opinion that it is the actual caloric intake that is detrimental, rather than the weight gain per se. A frugal diet allows the body to metabolise in moderation, whereas excessive intake strains the metabolism. Of course, a steady frugal diet leads to a slimmer body, which is a help, but I think it is the reduced metabolism which is the principal benefit.


20 posted on 06/27/2013 11:13:20 PM PDT by dr_lew
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