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New 'armor piercing' ammo legislation might outlaw nearly all rifle ammunition
Examiner.com ^ | 7/1/13 | KURT HOFMANN

Posted on 07/02/2013 9:22:10 AM PDT by barmag25

Edited on 07/02/2013 9:24:52 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Tucson Gun Rights Examiner Chris Woodard alerted readers Friday to some of the most recently introduced federal gun bills (both anti-rights and pro-rights). In fact, his Constitution Watch blog is a great resource for keeping current on pending federal gun legislation. Today, we will focus on Representative Jackie Speier's (D-CA) H.R. 2566, the "Modernized Law Enforcement Officers Protection Act of 2013."

The text is not yet available, so the look will necessarily be somewhat cursory, but there are some assumptions that are probably safe to make.

For one thing, we can almost certainly assume that by "armor piercing," Rep. Speier means that the ammunition is capable of defeating soft body armor, like that worn by cops on the beat, rather than the much heavier and bulkier rigid body armor worn by combat troops and S.W.A.T. team personnel. To be considered "armor piercing," in other words, the ammunition would need only, at most, to defeat Level IIIa armor (if Speier lowers the standard below that, even more ammunition would be banned). In fact, Speier makes that pretty clear in her press release, which talks about "first responders," rather than soldiers:

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: ammo; armorpiercing; banglist; california; guncontrol; guns; jackiespeier; kkkalifornia; secondamendment
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1 posted on 07/02/2013 9:22:11 AM PDT by barmag25
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To: barmag25

I’m not surprised.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 9:26:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (I'm a gamer not because I choose to have no life, but because I choose to have many.)
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To: barmag25

Anyone who has an AK74 is now screwed. Russian ammo like Silver Bear and Wolf are steel core and armor piercing. Looks like I will have to re-barrel my AK. I am not happy to hear this.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 9:26:48 AM PDT by InsidiousMongo
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To: barmag25

It looks like a lot of us are about to become outlaws.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 9:29:49 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: InsidiousMongo

Let’s not panic yet! Spier has about as much chance of getting this legislation to go anywhere as Hank Johnson does his anti-Guam is going to Tip Over Bill. With Spier, it’s just a shame that Jim Jones shooters weren’t good enough. She’s the leftover trash.


5 posted on 07/02/2013 9:30:44 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: InsidiousMongo
Looks like I will have to re-barrel my AK. I am not happy to hear this.

If this legislation passed you would have to shoot wad cutters out of your AK.

Almost any fully jacketed rifle round will penetrate soft police body armor.

6 posted on 07/02/2013 9:30:46 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: barmag25

These bastards just wont stop.


7 posted on 07/02/2013 9:31:09 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: InsidiousMongo
"Russian ammo like Silver Bear and Wolf"

Can't we get Putin to fix this?

8 posted on 07/02/2013 9:31:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: InsidiousMongo
Russian ammo like Silver Bear and Wolf are steel core

I believe you are confusing the steel case with a steel core.

9 posted on 07/02/2013 9:32:28 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: InsidiousMongo

Only re-barrel it after you have shot it out by giving back your ammo, one bullet at a time.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 9:33:16 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: barmag25

Just about any rifle round will go thru soft body armor.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 9:35:05 AM PDT by Zathras
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This reflects what the administration is most afraid of, an armed citizenry.
Which in turn shows clearly what they feel guilty about.
If they governed in the interest of the American people they would have no reason to fear farmers with rifles.

12 posted on 07/02/2013 9:38:16 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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the commies will just define armour as “human skin” and ban all ammo.

next, armour piercing swords.


13 posted on 07/02/2013 9:38:40 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: barmag25

Another foolishly thought out proposal by a GFW?

The quality of armor and the armor piercing power of different types of ammunition are highly variable and ever changing.


14 posted on 07/02/2013 9:39:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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To: Zathras

How many police were killed with armor piercing bullets last year I wonder? I would guess zero. They’re prepping their battlefield. They know what’s coming eventually and they’re stacking the deck in their favor ahead of it.


15 posted on 07/02/2013 9:39:50 AM PDT by RC one
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Trying to, anyway.


16 posted on 07/02/2013 9:44:13 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: InsidiousMongo
Anyone who has an AK74 is now screwed. Russian ammo like Silver Bear and Wolf are steel core and armor piercing. Looks like I will have to re-barrel my AK. I am not happy to hear this.

Uh oh. Someone didn't take their dyslexia pill this morning.
17 posted on 07/02/2013 9:44:38 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Cracker Barrel is racist and I demand that they change their name.)
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To: barmag25

I’ve already seen this movie. It’s the old KTW “cop killer bullet” crap, resurrected for a new audience. I guess they think Americans have become sufficiently stupidified and brainwashed for it to work.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 9:45:24 AM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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To: BitWielder1

As a friend once said, “If the government is so worried about a civil disturbance, they are the trying so hard to disturb us?”


19 posted on 07/02/2013 9:45:48 AM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: barmag25


20 posted on 07/02/2013 9:48:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Welcome to Obama-Land - EVERYTHING NOT FORBIDDEN IS COMPULSORY)
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