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To: MamaTexan
You started the Civil War and you lost, get over it.

If you want to blame Lincoln then you should start at Washington with the Whiskey Rebellion. The was the first time a president put down a secessionist movement. Andrew Jackson threatened the same also to South Carolina. You Lost Causers don't know your history.

12 posted on 07/04/2013 6:02:47 AM PDT by Partisan Gunslinger
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To: Partisan Gunslinger
If you want to blame Lincoln then you should start at Washington with the Whiskey Rebellion.

ROFLMAO!

During the Whiskey Rebellion, Hamilton accompanied Washington and clearly stated Governor MIfflin had the option of complying with Washington's Proclamation or leaving the Union

A proclamation was issued by the President, commanding the insurgents to disperse, while quotas of militia were called for from Pennsylvania, Virginia, Maryland, and New Jersey. These Governor Mifflin, of Pennsylvania, who seemed to be in sympathy with the insurgents, hesitated to call out. He was, however, forced either to do so, or to break with the central government, and the militia volunteered in greater numbers than were wanted, even members of the "Society of Friends" joining the force.
Alexander Hamilton

The Constiuonal provision declaring the FACT the federal government MUST have the permission of the State in order to enter it can be found in Article 4 section 4
The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

And on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive means the STATE governments, not the federal one.

It may not be amiss further to observe, that every pretext for intermeddling with the domestic concerns of any state, under colour of protecting it against domestic violence is taken away, by that part of the provision which renders an application from the legislative, or executive authority of the state endangered, necessary to be made to the federal government, before it's interference can be at all proper.
St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries (Annotated), 1803

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At the same time it is properly provided, in order that such interference may not wantonly or arbitrarily take place; that it shall only be on the request of the state authorities: otherwise the self-government of the state might be encroached upon at the pleasure of the Union, and a small state might fear or feel the effects of a combination of larger states against it under colour of constitutional authority;
William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States, 1825

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……. (snip) The right of interposition must depend upon the special circumstances of the case. It is not susceptible of precise limitations, and is extremely delicate in the application. It must be submitted to the guidance of eminent discretion, and controlled by the principles of justice and sound policy. It would clearly be a violation of the law of nations to invite subjects to revolt who were under actual obedience, however just their complaints; or to endeavor to produce discontents, violence, and rebellion in neighboring states, and, under color of a generous assistance, to consummate projects of ambition and dominion.
James Kent , Commentaries on American Law, 1826

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§ 1819. It may not be amiss further to observe, (in the language of another commentator,) that every pretext for intermeddling with the domestic concerns of any state, under colour of protecting it against domestic violence, is taken away by that part of the provision, which renders an application from the legislative, or executive authority of the state endangered, necessary to be made to the federal government, before it's interference can be at all proper.
Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution, 1833

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You Lost Causers don't know your history.

ROFLMAO! I wouldn't expect anyone who thinks the original Constitutional intent of the Founders is a 'lost cause' to have anything other than the government's 'educational' view of *history*.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be ecstatic.

13 posted on 07/04/2013 6:25:33 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as defined by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as defined by the laws of Man)
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