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The GOP Is More Serious Than Sarah Palin (Uses Lincoln & Reagan to bash Palin on Amnesty!)
Commentary Magazine ^ | July 8, 2013 | Peter Wehner

Posted on 07/08/2013 12:16:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: onyx

BTTT!


61 posted on 07/08/2013 1:12:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: tennmountainman

Darah Palin could drop a pin and forty milliom peope would hear it instantaneously. Imagine if she dropped a bombshell....


62 posted on 07/08/2013 1:14:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: MestaMachine

SARAH


63 posted on 07/08/2013 1:16:08 PM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work. You gotta earn them.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We are better off taking over the GOP from within. Eventually the RINOs will be the minority and can be put on committees where they can do little harm.


64 posted on 07/08/2013 1:18:14 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: The Working Man; rustbucket; GOPcapitalist; PeaRidge; 4CJ; Colonel Kangaroo; Ditto
Lincoln was also Pro-EMMIGRATION, he wanted to send the freed Blacks back to Africa and I believe the Country of Liberia was to be the destination for them.

Close, but no panatela ... just a Swisher Sweet. ;)

The Liberian experiment of the 1840's was well advanced when Lincoln came to office. He was thinking more about Panama and the Panama Canal, and in April, 1865, had had Gen. Dan Sickles down in Panama (New Grenada) talking to locals and to the government in Bogota for two years about the U.S.'s acquiring certain rights to build the canal and import over 1,000,000 emancipated black Americans to do the labor. They would then be settled in-country at the completion of the canal. This, mind you, was a generation before Walter Reed appeared. It was a major mercy for everyone that the idea went on the back burner with Lincoln's death.

By the wayyyy.... a FReeper named GOPcapitalist ("GOPcap" for short) took an interest in this subject about nine years ago and had a look in the government files. Everything Sickles had sent back (letters, journals, everything) had been removed from State Department files, and GOPcap came to believe the files had been rifled. Touchy subject, perhaps.

The Liberian experience brought colonization into disrepute; critics pointed to the short longevity of American ex-slaves in Liberia, against which must be laid the fact that the ex-slave colonizers were largely in their forties and much worn after a life spent in unremitting toil in the fields. Richard Hofstadter, in his America at 1750, published posthumously, pointed out that colonial-era indentees, white or black, also had weak life prospects after full-term indentures of seven years or more, or imprisonment at labor (convict labor). They served longer than seven years if they'd run away and been assessed compensatory time extending their indentures: just such a Virginia case in 1645 actually resulted in the establishment of lifetime slavery -- it was a case involving two black indentees who'd run away successfully for a period of years, and a planter plaintiff who was a time-served indentee from West Africa himself.

Persons who, as convicts or full-term indentees, had served long periods of service especially in the field (clearing raw land was the most arduous and dangerous work), did not enjoy long lives or good health afterward, census scholarship has showed; and a significant proportion of such persons as survived returned to the Old World after their service was up.

Indentees who'd served shorter terms of three or four or two years, on the other hand, went on to establish themselves much more successfully, and few of them found themselves living as charges on the community charity as the burnt-out cases did. These successful indentured servants, together with those who were able to get passage to the New World without indenturing themselves, became the backbone of Jacksonian America who so deeply impressed British visitors and Alexis De Tocqueville alike with their health, happiness, and robust enjoyment of their liberty.

65 posted on 07/08/2013 1:21:23 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Covenantor

You’re right.
GO SARAH!


66 posted on 07/08/2013 1:23:01 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: GeronL; 2ndDivisionVet
Reagan regretted amnesty. They always forget that part.

They also "forget" (how could they, since they're doing it again right now?) that lots of people, Democrat and Republican, lied their butts off to get Simpson-Mazzoli passed in 1986, which Reagan signed. It wasn't as if, btw, it was Ronald Reagan's idea all along.

No, Simpson-Mazzoli (as in Alan Simpson, R-Wyo.) was a scam and outright legislative fraud, and the "fool me once" rule is now in full force.

67 posted on 07/08/2013 1:26:48 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

"I represent 'Team Romney' and we HATE
Palin, FReepers, women, and especially conservatives.
It is our way - the Romney and Rove way."

68 posted on 07/08/2013 1:27:25 PM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Another sterling example of Yellow Journalism at its best.

"Reagan was an advocate of amnesty"

FALSE !

Reagan traded approval of amnesty with congress for border security.

He kept his word; as usual, congress lied.

If Reagan was here today with congress trying to pull the same scam again he would laugh at them and walk away.

"Lincoln was broadly pro-immigration"

RED HERRING ALERT !

The issue is not immigration.

The issue is illegal immigration and amnesty for lawbreakers here illegally.


69 posted on 07/08/2013 1:28:04 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Lincoln pro immigration ? ok... not pro illegal-immigration amnesty.
this guy puts words in Lincoln’s mouth.


70 posted on 07/08/2013 1:29:04 PM PDT by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: babble-on

I’d say you put her in the appropriate set of minds.

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Which in this case, as dad would say, is damning her with faint praise.


71 posted on 07/08/2013 1:43:01 PM PDT by dmz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin indicated she was open to leaving the GOP and starting a third party

"But, but, but, a third party would split the vote and we would lose elections."

"You mean like the ones in 2008 and 2012?"


72 posted on 07/08/2013 1:46:33 PM PDT by Iron Munro (The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there.)
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To: tennmountainman

She won’t just siphon votes with conservatives. She would siphon Reagan Democrats off, as well. The elites are afraid of her. That is why they spend so much time trying to discredit her. It hasn’t worked. In fact, she has grown in power!

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I’ve not seen a bit of evidence to suggest that she can siphon votes of anyone since coming into the public eye.

She has not run for elective office since losing with McCain in 2008.


73 posted on 07/08/2013 1:47:11 PM PDT by dmz
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They getting scared. Without her, they’re doomed.


74 posted on 07/08/2013 1:52:21 PM PDT by AdaGray (Primary Them All)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Only chance to stop the Amnesty bill is for the House not to consider any immigration related bill at all.

Michelle Bachman explained it. ANY House bill no matter if it promises all the border security in the world will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway.

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so then they only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the members of the House.

Tom Tancredo echos what Michelle Bachmann said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036438/posts

call congress . no bill at all from the House

and of course boner must not bring the Senate bill for the House to vote on. no senate bill, no border security bill from the House .nothing.


75 posted on 07/08/2013 1:53:48 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media; All

” Only chance to stop the Amnesty bill is for the House not to consider any immigration related bill at all.

Michelle Bachman explained it. ANY House bill no matter if it promises all the border security in the world will be a trojan horse.NO bill at all must come out of the House because it will be merged with the Senate Amnesty and trojan horse bill. Call congress.

Tell them to stop all Amnesty or immigration bills.they are all trojan horse bills. some will promise border security that will never be enforced anyway.

Bachmann explained it . The House will write a border security bill only . then in conference the senate will add the virus and then bring it back to the house. then the conservatives won’t vote for it but democrats will all vote for it so then they only need 10% of republicans to pass Amnesty and the virus that will destroy America. so any bill at all will be added the virus . so best thing is for Boner to not let any immigration bill at all come out of the House. that is the only hope . call boner and the members of the House.

Tom Tancredo echos what Michelle Bachmann said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3036438/posts

call congress . no bill at all from the House”

B T T T


76 posted on 07/08/2013 1:56:11 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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To: alexander_busek
Yeah, but what would Lincoln and Reagan say today about tolerating / abetting the approx. 30 million border-violators now here?

If I remember correctly Lincoln said?

Let every man remember that to violate the law, is to trample on the blood of his father, and to tear the character of his own, and his children's liberty. Let reverence for the laws, be breathed by every American mother, to the lisping babe, that prattles on her lap--let it be taught in schools, in seminaries, and in colleges; let it be written in Primers, spelling books, and in Almanacs;--let it be preached from the pulpit, proclaimed in legislative halls, and enforced in courts of justice. And, in short, let it become the political religion of the nation; and let the old and the young, the rich and the poor, the grave and the gay, of all sexes and tongues, and colors and conditions, sacrifice unceasingly upon its altars.

77 posted on 07/08/2013 2:02:43 PM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: onyx
Even though Mrs. Palin was talking about ObamaCare, this quote still applies to the insane Amnesty.

Sarah Palin: We Won't Recognize America If Obama Is Reelected (posted on 6/28/2012)

78 posted on 07/08/2013 2:14:00 PM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

stephenjohnbanker,

I see you here all the time fighting to stop this Amnesty bill. We appreciate what you do for America!
God Bless you and all of us who are fighting for liberty!


79 posted on 07/08/2013 2:19:03 PM PDT by Democrat_media (IRS rigged election for Obama and democrats by shutting down tea party)
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To: Democrat_media

I have 8 friends who are calling everyone in D.C. they can! I only wish I knew more people willing to do it. Friday we hammered them, and will do it again.


80 posted on 07/08/2013 2:22:26 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (K I L L T H E B I L L !!)
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