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Democratic establishment unmasked: prime defenders of NSA bulk spying
The Guardian ^ | 07/25/2013 | Greenwald

Posted on 07/25/2013 5:58:51 AM PDT by MadIsh32

The extraordinary events that took place in the House of Representatives yesterday are perhaps the most vivid illustration yet of this dynamic, and it independently reveals several other important trends. The House voted on an amendment sponsored by Justin Amash, the young Michigan lawyer elected in 2010 as a Tea Party candidate, and co-sponsored by John Conyers, the 24-term senior Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee. The amendment was simple. It would de-fund one single NSA program: the agency's bulk collection of the telephone records of all Americans that we first revealed in this space, back on June 6. It accomplished this "by requiring the FISA court under Sec. 215 [of the Patriot Act] to order the production of records that pertain only to a person under investigation".

The amendment yesterday was defeated. But it lost by only 12 votes: 205-217. Given that the amendment sought to de-fund a major domestic surveillance program of the NSA, the very close vote was nothing short of shocking. In fact, in the post-9/11 world, amendments like this, which directly challenge the Surveillance and National Security States, almost never get votes at all. That the GOP House Leadership was forced to allow it to reach the floor was a sign of how much things have changed over the last seven weeks.

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bachman; nsa; obama; spying
"The most vocal defenders of the Obama White House's position were Rep. Mike Rogers, the very hawkish GOP Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and GOP Congresswoman Michele Bachmann."

Very disappointing to see Mike Rogers and Michele Bachmann fully support Obama's spying

1 posted on 07/25/2013 5:58:51 AM PDT by MadIsh32
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To: MadIsh32

Add to those two Big Government lovers Kevin Brady, Lamar Smith and Randy Neugebauer from Texas. Conservatives should fire them next year for thinking they can get away with voting with Sheila Jackson Lee and the other Democrats just because they come from very conservative Republican districts.

Every conservative in their districts should be contacting them today to tell them how angry their sell-out to Boehner has made us. They should be primaries.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 6:03:24 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: MadIsh32
Democratic establishment unmasked: prime defenders of NSA bulk spying NYT: "The Obama administration made common cause with the House Republican leadership"

They vet the enemy and it is us.

3 posted on 07/25/2013 6:05:02 AM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: MadIsh32

They are Fascists and murderers of the Constitution.

I am glad Bachmann is going, she is an idiot.


4 posted on 07/25/2013 6:19:06 AM PDT by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: MadIsh32

The Plan:

DOJ + NSA + IRS = KGB


5 posted on 07/25/2013 6:26:06 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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... a basic truth that needs to be understood. As John Boehner joined with Nancy Peolsi, as Eric Cantor whipped support for the Obama White House, as Michele Bachmann and Peter King stood with Steny Hoyer to attack NSA critics as Terrorist-Lovers,

Bottom line: Leadership of both parties support NSA spying on all Americans.

6 posted on 07/25/2013 6:27:22 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (That which cannot be paid, won't be paid.)
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To: MadIsh32

Obama made it clear long ago that he was abandoning the war on terror. Napolitano made it clear that this administration considers its domestic political opposition as its real enemies. If this president uses the IRS as a personal political force against political dissidents, why not the NSA?


7 posted on 07/25/2013 6:32:22 AM PDT by Spok
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To: MulberryDraw
... a basic truth that needs to be understood. As John Boehner joined with Nancy Peolsi, as Eric Cantor whipped support for the Obama White House, as Michele Bachmann and Peter King stood with Steny Hoyer to attack NSA critics as Terrorist-Lovers,
Bottom line: Leadership of both parties support NSA spying on all Americans.

That's true; overall in the past decade there has been a swift exacerbation of a change in the citizen/government relationship; fortionately there's an informational brochure to help you understand this new relationship:
Stop, Drop, and Cower
[Direct Link]

8 posted on 07/25/2013 6:35:34 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: MadIsh32

As with so many other un-American activities, this should be a career ender for many congressmen.

More than anything else, it indicates that they are flawed in two ways: by not understanding the “law of diminishing returns”; but more importantly, that the value of America is not in what the government does, or can do, but in what the government does NOT do, even if it can.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 7:09:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: MadIsh32

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/24/Throw-Them-All-Out-Nearly-6-in-10-Want-Every-Member-of-Congress-Replaced


10 posted on 07/25/2013 7:45:34 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Glenn Beck just did a whole segment of his radio show about Michelle Bachman and her support for continued NSA spying on the American people. Glenn was furious with her.


11 posted on 07/25/2013 7:53:09 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms should be a chain of convenience stores.)
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To: txrefugee

I sent mine a sharply worded letter. He won’t ever see it but it made me feel better.

Imagine!! Voting with Shelia Jackson Lee and Nancy Pelosi
!!!


13 posted on 07/25/2013 7:29:16 PM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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