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To: betty boop
Thank you so much for sharing your insights, dearest sister in Christ, and thank you for the excerpt from "The Science of Wholeness."

It will be argued that it is not science's business to deal with the qualitative aspects of reality. But if one is trying to understand the Universe in toto, and man's place in it (not to mention the emergence of life and mind), one cannot leave them out. To attempt to do so is a kind of falsification of reality.

So very true. Science has hardly even begun to ask the most fundamental of questions, e.g. "what life 'is' rather than simply what it looks like or does" - "what is the origin of autonomy in biological life."

45 posted on 07/30/2013 7:26:52 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
"what is the origin of autonomy in biological life" ... the dimension of Life force which becomes mixed with dimension space and dimension time when a phase shift occurs due to a complexity level reached in the mix of space and time.

The Hebrew term 'bara' is used three times in Genesis, one of which is when single celled living things are transitioned by God intervention into organisms of multi-cellular cooperative functioning. The word is not used to differentiate the expression of life arising in the lifeless Universe, so we may conclude that the expression of life was 'built into the plans' for the Universe at the moment of the first use of bara for descriptor. The third use is when God breathed the Spirit into Adam. These moments described with the use of bara might be seen as interventions specifically by God for new creations not built into the original starting phenomenon. At the first moment of Creation, all the dimensions to be expressed came into being and will manifest as phase shifts reveal the growing complexity.

46 posted on 07/30/2013 7:57:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Alamo-Girl
...Science has hardly even begun to ask the most fundamental of questions, e.g. "what life 'is' rather than simply what it looks like or does" - "what is the origin of autonomy in biological life."

Evidently such questions are simply banned from, say, the Journal of Theoretical Biology, which is probably the field's flagship journal....

There seems to be an almost religious commitment to the doctrines of naturalism and materialism over there.

Nonetheless, I do believe that a paradigm shift is coming sooner or later — not motivated by biologists per se, but by physicists and mathematicians.

I'm all for "cross-disciplinary" investigation of the issues of life and mind.... We probably need to have philosophy weigh in, too. This will drive the Darwinists nutz!

Thank you so much for writing, dearest sister in Christ!

47 posted on 07/30/2013 8:03:01 AM PDT by betty boop
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