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To: gaijin
The total load of 21,000 MANPADS included mostly SA-7's --old and very vulnerable to such simple countermeasures as flares. BELOW:


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Sa-7.jpg

Also with the SA-7 featured above the target must be silhouetted against bare sky for the seeker to "see" the target. So if I'm a hilltop rebel trying to fire on a helicopter approaching from low in a valley using the SA-7 Grail, then forget it, the missile sees nothing, since there is a mountain behind him.

But After Reagan's air attack against Khadaffi (much later it turned out his daughter was not killed in the raid, as he'd claimed for many years), Khadaffi imported newer Soviet AA missiles, also, like the SA-24 Grinch, below, and THIS is the real problem:


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-j5TUVPrTpqA/Tmh48bS0bOI/AAAAAAAAAXM/T2e2iOPYRrw/s400/SA-24_Grinch_9K338_Igla-S_portable_air_defense_missile_system_Libya_Libyan_army_001.jpg

It flies at Mach 2, reaches up above 10,000 feet, and the aircraft needn't be seen against empty sky for targeting. Also the Grinch needn't score a physical hit for detonation --it also comes equipped with proximity fusing, so if senses an impending bypass, it will still trigger. Also if there is remaining fuel, this, too, will be blown in the explosion as a kicker. Even with jamming and flares, about one in four Grinches will score a hit, generally.

What type of success might it get against commercial aircraft in their current form...? The Obama Admin does NOT want to talk about this at all.

6 posted on 08/02/2013 4:37:02 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Paula Broadwell, Petraeus’ ex-lover, went to her Colorado alma mater and in her speech disclosed that one of the motives they were looking at for the attack was:

The attackers might have been trying to free captives there.

How many people think she would have said that if US personnel had not been in the practice of confining people there?

How many people think that in addition to the MANPADS smuggling there might ALSO have been a small SECRET CIA PRISON in operation, there..?

And that is totally aside from the nightmarish possibility that this imbroglio might also have something to do with NERVE GAS.


10 posted on 08/02/2013 4:46:39 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Looks like a good weapon to have shot down TWA flight 800,


16 posted on 08/02/2013 4:51:59 PM PDT by libstripper (A)
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To: gaijin

Well what will the bastard say when one of these shoots down a commercial airliner? “Oops”?


27 posted on 08/02/2013 6:02:43 PM PDT by gotribe (Vladimir Putin is MY President)
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