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Obama Administration Vetoes Ban on Sale of Some Apple Devices
WSJ ^ | 8/3/2013 | BRENT KENDALL

Posted on 08/03/2013 12:06:20 PM PDT by Monty22002

The Obama administration on Saturday vetoed a U.S. trade body's ban on the sale of some Apple AAPL +1.28%iPhones and iPads, a rare move that upends a legal victory for smartphone rival Samsung Electronics Co. 005930.SE +0.47% U.S. Trade Representative Michael Froman made the decision to veto the ban on the Apple devices, citing concerns about patent holders gaining "undue leverage." He said Samsung could continue to pursue its patent rights through the courts.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: apple; att; california; china; indonesia; ipads; iphones; malaysia; marketshare; michaelfroman; obama; patenttrolls; samsung; smartphones; sprint; taiwan; tmobile; tradewar; verizon
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And just like that, he legislates and overrides a court decision.
1 posted on 08/03/2013 12:06:20 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Monty22002

I guess going for a ride on airforce one pays off.


2 posted on 08/03/2013 12:09:23 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (If global warming exists I hope it is strong enough to reverse the Big Government snowball)
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To: Monty22002
The Obama administration on Saturday vetoed a U.S. trade body's ban on the sale of some Apple AAPL +1.28%iPhones and iPads, a rare move that upends a legal victory for smartphone rival Samsung Electronics Co.

That'll teach Smasung to be more generous with their Obama/DemoRat campaign contributions.

3 posted on 08/03/2013 12:12:16 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Monty22002

As long as money keeps coming in, he will keep changing results... even in the same case.


4 posted on 08/03/2013 12:14:10 PM PDT by Teacher317 (Obama is failing faster than I can lower my expectations.)
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To: Monty22002

Zero owns all patents.

How many soldiers does Samsung have?


5 posted on 08/03/2013 12:29:38 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama: the bearded lady of Muslim Brotherhood))
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To: Monty22002
He said Samsung could continue to pursue its patent rights through the courts.

Didn't they already do that? What would be the point if some mandarin can just nix the ruling with a penstroke? The Rule of Law...sooo 'yesterday' in Obamaland.

7 posted on 08/03/2013 12:57:44 PM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: Monty22002

Sounds like quid pro quo for Apple letting NSA in the backdoor just after Jobs died in Oct of ‘12.


8 posted on 08/03/2013 12:59:39 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Monty22002

This is an executive decision that he as president has the power to override. If he did improperly, Samsung can go to an article 3 court and attempt to reinstate it. While I am suspicious of this use of power, I am disinclined to say he has abused it.


9 posted on 08/03/2013 1:03:45 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3
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To: Monty22002

Isn’t amazing how much influence can be bought for relatively small amounts of (recorded) campaign donations.


10 posted on 08/03/2013 1:15:44 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: ronnietherocket3

True, technically it is ‘legal’. But still it shows a pattern of cronyism. The left always bashed bush on this, so why not our side when they do it.


11 posted on 08/03/2013 1:20:15 PM PDT by Monty22002
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There's no such thing as "technically legal" -- it's legal.

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12 posted on 08/03/2013 2:06:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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http://www.zdnet.com/apple-q1-2013-hardware-sales-by-the-numbers-7000010258/

http://blog.laptopmag.com/apple-blows-away-iphone-and-ipad-records-mac-sales-down-16-percent


13 posted on 08/03/2013 2:10:29 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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14 posted on 08/03/2013 2:15:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Monty22002
The last time this happened was 1987.
15 posted on 08/03/2013 3:25:26 PM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: ShadowAce

May be of possible interest to you.


16 posted on 08/03/2013 5:36:50 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Monty22002; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; ...
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mony22002, You do not understand. For once, Obama acted correctly. . . and it is a proper exercise of his executive powers. This was a decision of an Executive branch administrative regulatory body and he has veto power over it. In fact, he is required to review their action when they ban a product.

The FTC was in violation of the law in this instance because they were claiming Apple was infringing a STANDARDS ESSENTIAL PATENT that Samsung had agreed to license to all cell phone makers under FRAND rules. FRAND mean Fair, Reasonable, And Non-Discriminatory rates to all members of the Standard setting organization. It is a CONDITION of their technology being included in the standard.

Apple was willing to pay the standard FRAND rate for these patents. But Samsung was demanding from twelve to twenty times MORE from Apple than what they were charging any other cell phone maker. This was not by any means in compliance with the contracts they signed when the patents in question were put into the STANDARD and this action on Samsung's part put in danger the entire concept of standard setting organizations. In fact, Samsung is under investigation in the EU for restraint of trade for denying using standard essential patents in just such a manner against Apple and Microsoft in an attempt to force those companies to license non-SEP patents to Samsung. Judges in the EU have roundly criticized Samsung, Motorola, and Google for making such attempts to misuse SEPs and ignoring FRAND. There are literally THOUSANDS of patents in each standard that must be licensed at a reasonable rate for cell phones to interoperate and if all the patent owners did what Samsung did to Apple, NO standards could exist, no company would put their patents in the standard pool (Apple has several dozen patents in the pool) , and cell phones would become cost prohibitive. JUST TWO DAYS BEFORE the FTC made its ruling in this case, the Department of Justice released a statement reiterating that Standards essential patents were NOT to be used in such a manner. Obama even mention it in a speech the next day on patent reform. Then the FTC REVERSED the finding of the JUDGE that there was no infringement based on evidence, and ordered the ban! If there ever was a case crying out for a veto, this was it!

In fact these accusations by Samsung had been tossed out of every court in the world where Samsung raised them because under international law it is called a "patent hold-up!" SEP are not supposed to be used in this manner as Samsung has been attempting and the FTC is acting in contravention of international law AND its OWN PURPOSE!

Samsung is using these Standard Essential Patents as a weapon against Apple because the lost a major patent infringement case of non-SEP patents that Apple wine. The FTC was 100% wrong to order the banning of Apple products based on this.

Secondly, the FTC's purpose is to protect US businesses against illegal patent infringement of FOREIGN businesses. . . and the last I looked, Apple is a US COMPANY and Samsung is a 100% Korean owned company! What is the Federal Trade Commission doing banning a US company's products to benefit a Korean company????

17 posted on 08/03/2013 7:28:14 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: Swordmaker
And last year Apple won a billion dollar bogus lawsuit against Samsung. It was based on factors such as Samsung’s phones being rectangular with rounded edges for goodness sakes! Apple is a bully in the technology sector and employs more lawyers than any other electronics company in the world. It was kind of fun to see them get their nose tweaked for once. So no, I don't accept that it was right for Obama to veto this decision.
18 posted on 08/03/2013 9:04:00 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: Swordmaker

You’re such a fanboy that it wouldn’t matter what hussein did for them.


19 posted on 08/03/2013 10:47:36 PM PDT by Monty22002
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks, and well said.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3050881/posts


20 posted on 08/03/2013 11:44:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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