Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

When will these environmentalists admit that they are causing more harm then good?

I know the answer is never, but why?

1 posted on 08/05/2013 6:31:46 AM PDT by Kaslin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies ]


To: Kaslin

I’m not one to pull a punch against the enviros, but this argument is a bit strange. Logging targets mature trees, not brush, whereas brush buildup is precisely what fuels the worst wildfires. Not sure how logging would help — in fact, you could argue that logging would make wildfires worse by opening the canopy for more young growth and brush.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 6:37:05 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

While I have no great love for environmentalists, radical or otherwise, they do not write laws or set policy.

It seems to me that the elected “leaders” who caved to the demands of the radical environmentalists are the ones truly at fault.


3 posted on 08/05/2013 6:38:53 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
Radical Environmentalists Have Blood of 19 Arizona Firefighters on Their Hands

They don't care. They think humans are just parasites on 'Mother earth' and it would be better for the planet if we were just exterminated.

4 posted on 08/05/2013 6:48:00 AM PDT by pgkdan (Marco Rubio can go straight to hell!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
I know the answer is never, but why?

Because to radical environmentalists, humans are an infestation on the otherwise pristine Mother Earth.

5 posted on 08/05/2013 6:48:15 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
According to Payne, the superintendent’s violations allegedly…failing to have a spotter serve as a lookout

Sorry, but that statement simply is not true

survivor served as lookout in Yarnell hill fire

6 posted on 08/05/2013 6:51:03 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (0bama lied, Stevens died, now 0bama covers up the lies.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

I don’t understand why building homes in a forest makes forest fires move faster. Other than that, good article.


7 posted on 08/05/2013 6:51:52 AM PDT by Mercat
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
When will these environmentalists admit that they are causing more harm then good?

At the same time any of the other myriad of communist groups pat themselves on the back for achieving their goals in the US.

9 posted on 08/05/2013 6:57:59 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

In the past four years there have been major wildland fires in Arizona and New Mexico that either may not have occurred or the area burned would have been greatly minimized if it were not for environmental rules prohibiting logging or brush clearing. The Yarnell Hill fire is not one of them.

As in California coastal regions, heavy brush, commonly called chaparral, covered hillsides and small valleys. It has no economic value except maybe as forage and cover for deer and semi-arid mammals and birds. Traditionally it has been consumed by lightning caused fires - this area had not burned previously for over 40 years. During that time humans have built homes in an among the brush and huge boulders that make up the landscape here. Protecting these structures were the main purpose for deployment of the hotshots.

Unlike the implication in the article that over-zealous environmental policies were at fault here and led to the deaths of the firefighters, it is not the case. As is the case in the Colorado Springs fire earlier this summer, these were lands where humans had made homes in areas that traditionally burned from natural causes. Though environmental policies are to blame for many forest conflagrations, the main villains here are likely to be poor decision making by the firefighters exacerbated by prolonged drought and extreme heat


13 posted on 08/05/2013 7:30:34 AM PDT by CedarDave (Trayvon Martin history: The MS media is in love with burglars and thugs in training.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

Simply because they are SOOOOOOOO much smarter than our dumb butts apparently. As long as no one is allowed to kill and clear the dead trees (yup, dead trees are already dead) and clear the fuel load, these clowns are fine with it. If it costs a few firefighters their lives, to them, it was worth it. Yeah, I know. It’s not really THE answer. But close.


16 posted on 08/05/2013 7:33:46 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
99.999999% of all species to ever live on this earth are now extinct. It is a natural fact of life for every species including environmental wackos.
24 posted on 08/05/2013 7:59:37 AM PDT by immadashell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin

It’s about money. The environmental wackos really, really hate private businesses, but they hate loggers even more. The loggers could fix this by thinning the forests (they have the tools and the expertise), but the wackos won’t hear of it because the loggers would make a buck. We can’t have that.


33 posted on 08/06/2013 8:42:33 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

To: Kaslin
As one retired firefighter told me, “Try to find a photo of a house in the middle of the forest from 100 years ago. You can’t.”

That might come as news to Zane Grey.

34 posted on 08/06/2013 9:10:04 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Justice for Trayvon: Dig up his body and shoot him again.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson