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To: P-Marlowe; BillyBoy; Impy

We’ve had this discussion endlessly. Repeal would result in an even disastrous situation and you’d never get another Conservative Senator again. The Democrat states would send Communists (and you’d immediately put 40 seats permanently under their control) and the Republican states would send establishment turds. Even Texas would’ve sent the likes of DewCrist and Karl Rove (the latter as a thank you to Dubya). Their legislature can’t even dump their RINO House Speaker and you think they’d send Ted Cruz to DC ?

As for states’ interests, that disappeared early in the 19th century and that won’t come back with repeal. All you’d do is empower the corrupt political interests who’d bypass the people, and that corruption would extend all the way down like tentacles from Washington to your local State Representative. To that idea, I say: “No Way !”


12 posted on 08/13/2013 3:21:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; P-Marlowe
Why would state appointed senators, regardless of party, not be prone to defend state interests at the expense of the now thoroughly consolidated government?
14 posted on 08/13/2013 3:27:55 PM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Repeal of the 17th Amendment is central to reestablishing a constitutional republic.


17 posted on 08/13/2013 3:32:45 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; P-Marlowe; BillyBoy; Impy
Does P-Marlowe also favor repealing the 12th amendment so Mitt Romney will be Obama's Vice President? The framers CLEARLY establishment that the runner up for President would become Vice President when they ratified the Constitution in 1789. According to the anti-17th amendment crowd, the framers were infallible when they set up the government, and we must NEVER EVER deviate from what the framers established. I guess "our Republic was destroyed" because we never got to have Vice President Gore in a Bush administration, Vice President Carter in a Reagan administration, etc, etc.
21 posted on 08/13/2013 3:41:15 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; P-Marlowe; Impy; Jacquerie

Does P-Marlowe also favor repealing the 12th amendment so Mitt Romney will be Obama’s Vice President? The framers CLEARLY established that the runner up for President would become Vice President when they ratified the Constitution in 1788. According to the anti-17th amendment crowd, the framers were infallible when they set up the government, and we must NEVER EVER deviate from what the framers established. I guess “our Republic was destroyed” because we never got to have Vice President Gore in a Bush administration, Vice President Carter in a Reagan administration, etc, etc.


22 posted on 08/13/2013 3:45:47 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Liz Cheney's family supports gay marriage. Do you?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Sorry, your argument for the 17th amendment lacks a good measure of reasoned thought.

Before the 17th amendment passage, we still had a strong constitutional republic. After passage, we lost our constitution and freedoms. We got gun control, abortion, restriction of private property and a dozen other attacks on our liberties.

If we had senators looking out for their states, we would have not seen the dissolution of the 9th and 10th amendments by the black-robed fascist courts over the past 100 years. Impeachment of justices would have happened.

I can’t agree with you; you need to to rethink your position and join us in the patriot movement.


29 posted on 08/13/2013 3:53:41 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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