Posted on 08/31/2013 11:38:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I have no problem with background checks. What I object to is tagging the firearm to the background check data. If I am allowed to own a firearm there is no reason for anyone other than the manufacturer to know the serial number. And that’s only so they can uphold their guarantee with the original owner.
I agree, why not indeed. Our nation was much safer when we could order machineguns through the mail. The NFA is blatantly unconstitutional as are virtually all arms control laws.
Then let’s go back to the beginning.
You are advocating knuckling under to a rotten new firearms law. Fact.
You may or may not understand fully understand the “why” on this. Fact.
You certainly haven’t answered my question about this. Fact.
Before you knuckle under to new rights-limiting legislation, you should at least fully understand what you are giving up. I do not get the impression that you do, at all.
I’m not the only one here who feels similarly about this, based on some of the other posts in the thread.
"As a gun owner, I'm a responsible person and I think it's responsible to ask to have all gun owners have a background check," said Blanche Luczyk. "It's just common sense. Any responsible person who is willing to take the ownership of a gun should be willing to have that background check."Oh, no -- because if you're forced to have a background check, and are a foreign-born jihadist, that's just racial profiling so they'll get a waiver.
You're right - it would be the paid professionals and astroturf bunch against conservative free citizens. We would win every time...
Yes, and it’s what has been sadly lacking IMO.
We simply don’t organize good enough.
You beat me to the punch.
You are correct. There are a lot of bad gun laws where, Constitutionally, there should be none.
Asking the police to enforce current laws is a can of worms we should not open, especially since
the qualification standards have been lowered into the basement for LEOs.
Leftist legislators have ignored Amendment the Second for far too long, as if they don’t understand
the plain English words, “...the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.”
Thank you for the ping, Whenifhow.
Amen. The Won used massive, country-wide, big-city voter fraud to “win” both presidential elections, but he had
practice from his campaign in Chicago to “win” his senate seat with a lot of mud-slinging and outright lies thrown in
about his opponent.
He’s a mannikin, an empty suit, and he definitely has handlers and bosses, all of whom hate us and our country.
This plum, America, got ripe, and they’re in the business of plucking it and making a pie for themselves to consume.
And our Conservative champions have been dropping like flies ever since President Reagan passed away.
Actually, quite a lot of us have a problem with any kind of background check. The Travons of the world don't have to ask the government for permission to own a gun. Why should I?
Indeed. Why not? We could abolish the BATFags while we were at it. This country would be a better place without both.
“...I don’t believe most of us have a problem with background checks...
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Let me go on record as being one of those people
who has a problem with background checks
to receive government permission
to exercise any of my god given rights.
You are advocating knuckling under to a rotten new firearms law. Fact.Maybe I miss-understand the federal laws for purchasing firearms.
Can you go into a gunshop in Georgia and buy a handgun without a federal background check?
All you people getting giddy over the lax attitudes in issuing CCW's better think twice, because guess what, you aren't going to get one without a "REGISTERED" firearm. You certainly haven’t answered my question about this. Fact.
The only "fact" is I didn't answer your stupid question. Your question is asking me if I can see a hidden agenda or guess the intent in this article. If you can post any quotes to support your suppositions, post them I’m not the only one here who feels similarly about this, based on some of the other posts in the thread.
Group think doesn't make you right it only validates what you think in your mind. Group think got us Obama.
I couldn't care less what anyone else thinks of my opinions. Nor do I need to read all the other comments to see if I'm right.
i don’t buy all my guns from licensed dealers...
>>Can you go into a gunshop in Georgia and buy a handgun without a federal background check?
No.
>>All you people getting giddy over the lax attitudes in issuing CCW’s better think twice, because guess what, you aren’t going to get one without a “REGISTERED” firearm.
There is no such thing as a “REGISTERED” firearm in many, many states. GA is one of them. There is no firearm associated with my CCW. And there are a few states with pure Constitutional carry, no CCW required. They have low crime rates.
>>Your question is asking me if I can see a hidden agenda or guess the intent in this article. If you can post any quotes to support your suppositions, post them
Anyone paying attention to current firearms issues knows that when the Left is currently talking about universal background checks, they are talking about background checks for private sales and transfers. You will also hear this called the “gun show loophole.” This would include even if I give a gun that I got from my father (who got it from his uncle) to my son, he’d have to get a background check. This is de facto registration. Just because you guys in CA already have it does not mean the rest of us agree with it.
“If you were to say, someone who is so unstable as to be a danger to society needs to be on a funny farm then we might have common ground”.
Until you contemplate just who will be making such a decision. It is just one more government data base added to the many already in place and there really are just nine states that do not fully comply with the “your crazy” data base that is used in a NICS check.
If the last few months of news in regards government intrusion into the lives of Americans is not evidence enough that lists of names only add to the chance of you becoming a felon without a trial.
...and baby once you are felon you can kiss your second amendment rights goodby because government suddenly becomes GOD where gun rights are concerned. Just in case you thought rights are God given.
It means they got their weapon from an illegal source, of course. Perhaps you couldn't get that through all of the chest thumping. You might think his is not common. I know people that have been in that situation. One was a man that had a criminal very upset with him for truthfully testifying against him in court. Women in abusive relationships are another example. The bad guys had no problem getting guns quickly and illegally. The law abiding citizens were the ones that had to depend on the system to arm themselves. If you had an armed adversary promise to kill you how comfortable would you be while you waited? Especially if they knew you were defenseless. Who would guarantee that these checks would not take days or much longer? Ask the folks down in New Orleans that had their guns confiscated how quckly a gun hostile system moves. Just because you or your loved ones have never been in this situation does not mean it never happens.
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