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Navy Yard shooting: Swat team awaits answers
bbc.co.uk ^ | 9/20/13 | Debbie Siegelbaum

Posted on 09/20/2013 10:28:25 AM PDT by ColdOne

Meanwhile, the department has installed a new leader of the elite unit. No reason has been given for the decision.

Gunman Aaron Alexis killed 12 people.

The BBC has also learned that four members of the highly trained team have applied for temporary leave, as they "grapple" with the aftermath of the incident.

The Capitol Police department has not yet granted the request, nor given approval for them to use their own paid time off.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: capitolpolice; guncontrol; navyyardahooting; navyyardshooting; navyyardstanddown; navyyardtimeline; secondamendment; swat
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Navy Yard shooting timeline

8:00 (12:00 GMT): Aaron Alexis parks car in a multi-storey car park opposite Navy Yard and enters Building 197 using security pass. He moves to a fourth-floor bathroom and removes a shotgun from a bag. 8:15: Alexis leaves bathroom and begins shooting people at random in hallways and offices. 8:20: Reports surface of active shooter at Navy Yard. 8:36: A Capitol Police Cert team arrives at Navy Yard and is asked by a Metropolitan Police officer to join the search for the gunman. They are instructed by a supervisor to leave the scene. 8:50: Armed police arrive and engage Alexis, according to FBI Director James Comey. All 12 victims are believed to be already dead or dying. Running-battle with police ends in Alexis' death.

1 posted on 09/20/2013 10:28:25 AM PDT by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

Who is the “supervisor” that told the CERT unit to leave?


2 posted on 09/20/2013 10:39:30 AM PDT by Adult Dog
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To: ColdOne
It's amazing how they'll use SWAT teams to do inappropriate things like serve warrants, but they won't use them for things for which they are actually warranted.
3 posted on 09/20/2013 10:39:50 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When your policy is to rob Peter to pay Paul, you can count on enthusiastic support from Paul.)
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To: ColdOne
"8:50: Armed police arrive and engage Alexis, according to FBI Director James Comey.

Tin foil firmly in place ..

translation;

Select Eric Holder mind controllers take out their boy, selectively cleanse the scene and emerge the heroes .. but, ahhh .. 'twas nuthin' ... happy t'do it for my country.

4 posted on 09/20/2013 10:42:51 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: ColdOne
“Leave the scene”? Do I understand this correctly? The CERT team supervisor told them to leave?

It sounds like somebody(?) didn't want Alexis to be stopped too soon. Maybe a zero or low body count would not adequately promote their political agenda?

5 posted on 09/20/2013 10:44:24 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's amazing how they'll use SWAT teams to do inappropriate things like serve warrants, but they won't use them for things for which they are actually warranted.

Are you kidding?! That's dangerous! Somebody on the team could get hurt.

6 posted on 09/20/2013 10:47:36 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It's amazing how they'll use SWAT teams to do inappropriate things like serve warrants, but they won't use them for things for which they are actually warranted.

When it gets dangerous they need to withdraw, regroup, and wait. Then send in the robots.

7 posted on 09/20/2013 10:54:58 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: ColdOne

That’s 1/2 an hour. I’m glad some press outlet is reporting this. (it does make one wonder why the stand down order was given)


8 posted on 09/20/2013 10:58:41 AM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: ColdOne

Why “gunman Aaron Alexis”? Why not “nutcase Aaron Alexis” or even “Obama supporter Aaron Alexis”?


9 posted on 09/20/2013 11:01:49 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Prioritize!)
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To: ryan71
“Leave the scene”? Do I understand this correctly? The CERT team supervisor told them to leave?

I might not have all the details right here. But awhile back I read a story about a campus police officer who heard on his radio that a municipal police officer adjacent to the campus was involved in a shootout and needed help.

The campus cop responded. He was the closest armed law enforcement officer at the time, and he felt it was the right thing to do.

Anyway, the campus cop was disciplined by his superiors because the college was less protected in his absence.

I wonder if the same thing is going on here. The CERT team is evidently a Capitol Police unit. And the Capitol needs to have a SWAT team available at all times, dontcha know.

10 posted on 09/20/2013 11:03:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: machogirl

Ha! Its a BBC report. No one here will pick it up.


11 posted on 09/20/2013 11:09:04 AM PDT by Deb (If you wanna laugh everyday, follow Deepak Chopra on Twitter)
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To: Leaning Right
True, maybe their SOP is to consider it a diversion?
12 posted on 09/20/2013 11:14:26 AM PDT by ryan71 (The Partisans)
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To: machogirl
Yup! 1/2 hour. The timelime in this article says.."All 12 victims are believed to be already dead or dying" dying Chilling.
13 posted on 09/20/2013 11:18:38 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: ColdOne

For. The. Love. Of. God.


14 posted on 09/20/2013 11:38:22 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: ryan71
maybe their SOP is to consider it a diversion?

That's probably it. But it's still not an excuse, at least on the moral level. I'm sure the Capitol Police still had plenty of officers on duty even with their SWAT team deployed.

I think this is a case of a commander not willing to take a risk with his career. Better a few people get shot than risk an official reprimand.

15 posted on 09/20/2013 11:38:47 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: ryan71

Sounds like all of those victims need to be investigated to make sure they weren’t taken out. I hate being conspiracy minded, but this administration is so blatantly outrageous.


16 posted on 09/20/2013 11:41:10 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: null and void

NJCP


17 posted on 09/20/2013 11:45:28 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: Leaning Right

Their called “Mutual Aid Agreements” whereby the agency in need can call in for additional support from neighboring agencies. This is kind of a check and balance to keep LEOs and FF’s from doing their own thing across agency lines so the bookkeepers can track them and bill out their time accordingly.

Unfortunately commonsense is no longer practiced or encouraged in our society when it comes to situations like you described.


18 posted on 09/20/2013 11:46:45 AM PDT by shotgun
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I’m going with the simple answer....the Capitol Police command decided that it was more important to have the CERT available for the protection of Senators and Congressmen even if that meant that “the little people” would have to suffer the consequences. It’s pretty much the same mentality we saw in Benghazi so it stands to reason that it exists here as well.


19 posted on 09/20/2013 11:58:55 AM PDT by Tucsonican
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I remember the SWAT team at Columbine rubbing their butts against the outside of the school until Harris and Klebold put an end to their own rampage. Someone must have ordered them not to do their jobs. The bigger the body count, the higher the emotions run and the easier it becomes to manipulate the masses.


20 posted on 09/20/2013 12:04:51 PM PDT by Hayride
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